Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2R21oUH024384 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 04:01:50 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ajzwQ-0001GG-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:56:34 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ajzwP-0001G7-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:56:33 +0100 Received: from smtpout4.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.68] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ajzwM-0000lD-Nj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:56:32 +0100 Received: from AGB ([109.180.89.13]) by mwinf5d53 with ME id apwR1s0050HGxR103pwRJg; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 03:56:29 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 03:56:29 +0200 X-ME-IP: 109.180.89.13 Message-ID: <5750A73266904E698CC7158B5BD289ED@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <779E45249B3045B8ACB0E9A1E32CC15F@pcn5> <56F6ED73.6080805@posteo.de> In-Reply-To: <56F6ED73.6080805@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:56:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: c278e4e5c8f8994201f4c5270f7856b5 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC WSPR bad quality problem. No! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01D187D4.4014B350" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7476 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01D187D4.4014B350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4KmKkV3ddAo G,) From: DK7FC=20 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 9:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC WSPR bad quality problem. No! Hello Andy,=20 There is no TX AF level in my system. The RF is directly generated by = the Raspberry Pi at 4x frequency and divided down again inside the PA. = It is a concept used by several active OMs, i can assure you. For high SNR decodes it can sometimes happen that there is a second = decode 100 Hz above the main frequency, of course coming from the supply = voltage which uses a capacitor of finite size. However that signal is at = about -40 dBc, which is quite normal for amateur signals. It is not the first time that you tell me to stop my transmission and = saying that my signal has a poor quality. If you want to start a discussion about ham-spirit, which is of course a = triggering key-word in amateur radio, then say it clearly. You know, my signal may sometimes cause problems to local stations. But = also think about chances like the first contact to FR5ZX, which started = and interesting experiment (for some weeks) allowing several OMs to be = decodes there. Try to imagine how the band(s) activity would be if everyone runs 13 = dBm. I think it is good that there are signals in different power leagues.=20 We can all work and live together. 73, Stefan Am 26.03.2016 20:36, schrieb F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB:=20 Hello Stefan. I am sorry, but this evening you have a very poor quality WSPR signal = on MF with many splatters, I think it is perhaps due to an overload TX = AF level. That is not in phase with the normal ham spirit. So, please be kind to = stop now your transmission and correct this problem. On the way, can you say honnestly if your power is not over the legal = limit ? Sincerly yours and my best 73 de Andy. P.S.=20 Have a look below at some reports last hour showing the problem : 2016-03-26 19:00=20 DK7FC=20 0.475683=20 +12=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 PI4THT=20 JO32kf=20 336=20 338=20 =20 2016-03-26 19:00=20 DK7FC=20 0.475783=20 -25=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 PI4THT=20 JO32kf=20 336=20 338 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475783=20 -23=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 PE1RKT=20 JO22fb=20 418=20 316=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475683=20 +14=20 1=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 PE1RKT=20 JO22fb=20 418=20 316 =20 2016-03-26 18:40=20 DK7FC=20 0.475683=20 +12=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 LA8AV=20 JO59cs=20 1153=20 4=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:40=20 DK7FC=20 0.475783=20 -24=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 LA8AV=20 JO59cs=20 1153=20 4=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475783=20 -28=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 LA3JJ=20 JO59bh=20 1102=20 4=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475683=20 +10=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 LA3JJ=20 JO59bh=20 1102=20 4=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:40=20 DK7FC=20 0.475780=20 -28=20 1=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 G3KEV=20 IO94sh=20 829=20 314=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:40=20 DK7FC=20 0.475679=20 +10=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 G3KEV=20 IO94sh=20 829=20 314=20 =20 2016-03-26 19:10=20 DK7FC=20 0.475682=20 +13=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 F6CNI=20 JN19qb=20 389=20 266=20 =20 2016-03-26 19:10=20 DK7FC=20 0.475782=20 -27=20 1=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 F6CNI=20 JN19qb=20 389=20 266=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:30=20 DK7FC=20 0.475682=20 +15=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 F5WK=20 JN18hp=20 452=20 261=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:30=20 DK7FC=20 0.475782=20 -22=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 F5WK=20 JN18hp=20 452=20 261=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:00=20 DK7FC=20 0.475680=20 +19=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 DL6II=20 JO30nx=20 205=20 327=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:00=20 DK7FC=20 0.475780=20 -18=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 DL6II=20 JO30nx=20 205=20 327=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475682=20 +17=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 DL4RAJ/2=20 JN68kj=20 326=20 109=20 =20 2016-03-26 18:50=20 DK7FC=20 0.475782=20 -22=20 0=20 JN49ik=20 1=20 DL4RAJ/2=20 JN68kj=20 326=20 109 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01D187D4.4014B350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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From: DK7FC
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 9:13 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC WSPR bad quality problem.=20 No!

Hello Andy,

There is no TX AF level in my system. = The RF=20 is directly generated by the Raspberry Pi at 4x frequency and divided = down again=20 inside the PA. It is a concept used by several active OMs, i can assure=20 you.

For high SNR decodes it can sometimes happen that there is a = second=20 decode 100 Hz above the main frequency, of course coming from the supply = voltage=20 which uses a capacitor of finite size. However that signal is at about = -40 dBc,=20 which is quite normal for amateur signals.

It is not the first = time that=20 you tell me to stop my transmission and saying that my signal has a poor = quality.
If you want to start a discussion about ham-spirit, which is = of=20 course a triggering key-word in amateur radio, then say it = clearly.

You=20 know, my signal may sometimes cause problems to local stations. But also = think=20 about chances like the first contact to FR5ZX, which started and = interesting=20 experiment (for some weeks) allowing several OMs to be decodes = there.
Try to=20 imagine how the band(s) activity would be if everyone runs 13 dBm.
I = think it=20 is good that there are signals in different power leagues.

We = can all=20 work and live together.

73, Stefan


Am 26.03.2016 = 20:36,=20 schrieb F6CNI - Andy - JN19QB:=20

Hello Stefan.

 

I am sorry, but this evening you have a very = poor=20 quality WSPR signal on MF with many splatters, I think it is perhaps = due to an=20 overload TX AF level.

 

That is not in phase with the normal ham = spirit. So,=20 please be kind to stop now your transmission and correct this=20 problem.

 

On the way, can you say honnestly if your = power is not=20 over the legal limit ?

 

Sincerly yours and  my best = 73 de=20 Andy.

 

P.S.

 

Have a look below at some reports last hour = showing the=20 problem :

 

 

2016-03-26 19:00 =

DK7FC

0.475683 =

+12

0

JN49ik

1

PI4THT

JO32kf

336

338 =

2016-03-26 19:00 =

DK7FC

0.475783 =

-25

0

JN49ik

1

PI4THT

JO32kf

336

338

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475783 =

-23

0

JN49ik

1

PE1RKT

JO22fb

418

316 =

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475683 =

+14

1

JN49ik

1

PE1RKT

JO22fb

418

316

2016-03-26 18:40 =

DK7FC

0.475683 =

+12

0

JN49ik

1

LA8AV

JO59cs

1153

4

2016-03-26 18:40 =

DK7FC

0.475783 =

-24

0

JN49ik

1

LA8AV

JO59cs

1153

4

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475783 =

-28

0

JN49ik

1

LA3JJ

JO59bh

1102

4

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475683 =

+10

0

JN49ik

1

LA3JJ

JO59bh

1102

4

2016-03-26 18:40 =

DK7FC

0.475780 =

-28

1

JN49ik

1

G3KEV

IO94sh

829

314 =

2016-03-26 18:40 =

DK7FC

0.475679 =

+10

0

JN49ik

1

G3KEV

IO94sh

829

314 =

2016-03-26 19:10 =

DK7FC

0.475682 =

+13

0

JN49ik

1

F6CNI

JN19qb

389

266 =

2016-03-26 19:10 =

DK7FC

0.475782 =

-27

1

JN49ik

1

F6CNI

JN19qb

389

266 =

2016-03-26 18:30 =

DK7FC

0.475682 =

+15

0

JN49ik

1

F5WK

JN18hp

452

261 =

2016-03-26 18:30 =

DK7FC

0.475782 =

-22

0

JN49ik

1

F5WK

JN18hp

452

261 =

2016-03-26 18:00 =

DK7FC

0.475680 =

+19

0

JN49ik

1

DL6II

JO30nx

205

327 =

2016-03-26 18:00 =

DK7FC

0.475780 =

-18

0

JN49ik

1

DL6II

JO30nx

205

327 =

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475682 =

+17

0

JN49ik

1

DL4RAJ/2 =

JN68kj

326

109 =

2016-03-26 18:50 =

DK7FC

0.475782 =

-22

0

JN49ik

1

DL4RAJ/2 =

JN68kj

326

109

 

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