Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u47KK4lI031701 for ; Sat, 7 May 2016 22:20:04 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1az8Zj-0005Kc-2e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 May 2016 21:11:43 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1az8Zi-0005KT-Gi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 May 2016 21:11:42 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1az8Zg-0004I9-Pq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 May 2016 21:11:41 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 746722085B for ; Sat, 7 May 2016 22:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3r2KY34S1gz5vMs for ; Sat, 7 May 2016 22:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <572E4BF7.1060103@posteo.de> Date: Sat, 07 May 2016 22:11:35 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <40b8e5c6692149a7911fe77631ebb33b@kabelmail.de> <572BB679.2040107@posteo.de> <572BE449.5010806@abelian.org> <279E0DEFDAFA4C849152DBBA3BFEDE8C@White> <572C5E72.7010404@posteo.de> <912731037.20160506233059@mterrier.net> <572D1111.9030302@posteo.de> <572D9843.7060402@abelian.org> <572DBBD3.3020709@posteo.de> <572DC660.5050007@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <572DC660.5050007@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 47a967f57bae6380aac0a0062beb1b4e Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080909050808010500070401" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8022 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080909050808010500070401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Paul, VLF, Am 07.05.2016 12:41, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > I'll have a look now at your 6480 carrier to do some more > adjustment. There was another carrier from 09:45...19:45 UTC today on 6470 Hz. > Continuing to try for your first message but I'm probably > still 2 or 3dB short. A real challenge! There will be more. > The day/night phase change isn't a problem Not? Oh, ok, so let me start another transmission: *f = 6470.000 Hz Start time: 07.05.2016 20:00:02 UTC Period: 100 s Length: 19 CRC 16 Coding 8K19A Duration: 32h, 53m, 20s* *Antenna current: 200 mA* It is my longest transmission EVER! If this message comes through on the 46 km band, it would be amazing (even more). Then i would start to prepare the system for 5.17 kHz! Currently i am output transformer limited :-) I need a new one for 5.17 then. The spacing between the coils will be higher so i can run more antenna current, 280 mA again. So i need more voltage on a lower frequency. Calls for a larger ferrite core! > interesting that it > isn't less than at 8.27 kHz but it's complicated at these > short ranges. It's a distance of 19 lambda between us. 73, GL, Stefan --------------080909050808010500070401 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul, VLF,

Am 07.05.2016 12:41, schrieb Paul Nicholson:
I'll have a look now at your 6480 carrier to do some more
adjustment.
There was another carrier from 09:45...19:45 UTC today on 6470 Hz.

Continuing to try for your first message but I'm probably
still 2 or 3dB short.
A real challenge! There will be more.

The day/night phase change isn't a problem
Not? Oh, ok, so let me start another transmission:

f = 6470.000 Hz
Start time: 07.05.2016   20:00:02 UTC
Period: 100 s
Length: 19
CRC 16
Coding 8K19A
Duration: 32h, 53m, 20s

Antenna current: 200 mA

It is my longest transmission EVER! If this message comes through on the 46 km band, it would be amazing (even more).
Then i would start to prepare the system for 5.17 kHz!
Currently i am output transformer limited :-) I need a new one for 5.17 then. The spacing between the coils will be higher so i can run more antenna current, 280 mA again. So i need more voltage on a lower frequency. Calls for a larger ferrite core!

interesting that it
isn't less than at 8.27 kHz but it's complicated at these
short ranges.
It's a distance of 19 lambda between us.

73, GL, Stefan
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