Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u469XTOU028532 for ; Fri, 6 May 2016 11:33:29 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ayc5F-0002H5-05 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 10:30:05 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ayc5E-0002Gw-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 10:30:04 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1ayc5C-0008PW-Ue for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2016 10:30:03 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B157209B6 for ; Fri, 6 May 2016 11:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3r1RMG0cjXz5vN9 for ; Fri, 6 May 2016 11:30:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <572C6419.60602@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 06 May 2016 11:30:01 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <40b8e5c6692149a7911fe77631ebb33b@kabelmail.de> <572BB679.2040107@posteo.de> <572BE449.5010806@abelian.org> In-Reply-To: <572BE449.5010806@abelian.org> X-Scan-Signature: 33d261536bb1467bb13d5764461d5ec4 Subject: Re: VLF: EbNaut transmissions on lower frequencies?, pre-tests: 6.47kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8009 Hello Paul, VLF, Am 06.05.2016 02:24, schrieb Paul Nicholson: > > Stefan, > > Your 200mA carrier comes through well here at 6.47 kHz, nice > signal at 0.14 fT during the night. That is very nice. Can you show a graph showing a spectrum peak with noise and signal in a reasonable bandwidth? I'm very happy with my VLF remote grabber, have been impressed by the low man made noise levels above 5 kHz. The diurnal QRN is much lower on 6.47 relative to 8.27. I hope this can be an advantage. Yesterday i have been on the tree, completing the installation of the E-W single turn loop which is now used. > Daytime is 0.04 fT or > below and might be a bit of a struggle. Oh, such a difference. What could be the reason, propagation? What day/night ration can be found on 8.27? It would be interesting to get the information which band is 'better', when assuming a current limited TX system. On 8.27 kHz the ERP will be 2.1 dB higher then on 6.47 kHz. But maybe the phase stability and diurnal propagation (in a range below 2000km) will be better on 6.47 kHz. On the other side, the average RX system will have a higher man made noise level there. > > I don't need any more carrier. From the raw recording I can > optimise filters and blankers and look at most of the diurnal. OK, i'm looking forward to your EbNaut decodes of my two transmissions :-) With 0.14 fT there is a real chance i think. As i know you, i think you want to wait with the presentations of your decodes until you've found the best filter+blanker settings to get the best SNR possible. My next goal is of course the 58 km band, 5.17 kHz, where i have been active just 2 times ( i think) in 2010/2011. Then, i will go lower for the first time. New land! 73, Stefan > > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >