Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3QJW5fJ027247 for <sq5bpf@lipkowski.org>; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:32:07 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1av8eT-0007P5-88 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:28:05 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1av8eS-0007Ow-TP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:28:04 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <selberdenken@posteo.de>) id 1av8eQ-0007UM-Kg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:28:03 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1F40209AE for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qvY5s5SZwz5vNC for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <571FC141.4030204@posteo.de> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 21:28:01 +0200 From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <57101A93.9050904@posteo.de> <8D364FDC57083E1-13C0-757EEB@webmail-vm186.sysops.aol.com> <5710A5DD.7040300@abelian.org> <5710BCBA.60901@posteo.de> <5711387D.7070600@abelian.org> <57134ADA.1020309@abelian.org> <5713EABF.70601@abelian.org> <5713EE10.3000008@posteo.de> <571BA7FE.6080601@posteo.de> <571F86BF.5050403@tele2.se> <571F891B.3010109@tele2.se> In-Reply-To: <571F891B.3010109@tele2.se> X-Scan-Signature: 3547ef0bd9aa4f6a2596c8a6b1b20265 Subject: Re: LF: TXing on VLF again, my first homemade linear PA! :-) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000809000503000709050400" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7860 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000809000503000709050400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Johan, Thanks. Fascinating! The modern world, i can just say. I would assume such a chip is quite expensive and not easy to get in small amounts(?) Will you build a PA with that chip for the Dreamers Band (TM) and come on air then? It would be fine! Or maybe a RX station? :-) All the best and nice to read from you again time sometimes. 73, Stefan Am 26.04.2016 17:28, schrieb Johan Bodin: > Even more linear QRO for dreamer's band: > > http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tas5630b.pdf > > > Den 2016-04-26 kl. 17:18, skrev Johan Bodin: >> Hi Stefan >> >> I thought about your 9kHz PA efforts when I found this class D PWM >> chip capable of ~300W up to 100kHz with very low distorsion. Amazing >> performance from such a small $6 SMD chip! >> >> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa3251.pdf >> >> 73 de >> Johan SM6LKM >> >> Den 2016-04-23 kl. 18:51, skrev DK7FC: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Since about 16 UTC i'm transmitting on 8270.00500 Hz again. The >>> antenna current is about 200 mA. It is a first test over a longer >>> time with my new PA. >>> >>> I have been off the air for a few days now becuase i destroyed my >>> audio amp that i used as a VLF PA. Somehow i started to like the >>> idea of a clean sine wave coming from the PA. Low pass filters are >>> hard to design for VLF, you know. Since i don't like buying and >>> since i didn't find another one in the trash, i 'had to' (actually >>> /wanted/) to build my own. It is a class-AB PA now running at 20V DC >>> using 2x IRFP064N against ground. Opposite phase drive signals are >>> generated by a small blue ferrite core with 20 quadfilar turns. On >>> the primary side, 2 of these 4 windings are in series. On the scope, >>> the signal looks quite good. The 3rd harmonic is at about -20 dBc, >>> certainly improvable. But it's just version 0.2 now ;-) >>> A large ferrite core is used to up-transform the voltage to about >>> 220V rms for this power level (i'm not spot on the resonance), also >>> providing galvanic decoupling. >>> >>> A photo can be found at >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184046.jpg >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184059.jpg >>> >>> The PA consumes 3.6A at 20V DC now. Improvements will follow... >>> >>> The signal will stay on air for a few hours now. >>> >>> 73, Stefan >> > --------------000809000503000709050400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Johan, <br> <br> Thanks. Fascinating! The modern world, i can just say. I would assume such a chip is quite expensive and not easy to get in small amounts(?)<br> Will you build a PA with that chip for the Dreamers Band (TM) and come on air then? It would be fine! Or maybe a RX station? :-)<br> <br> All the best and nice to read from you again time sometimes.<br> <br> 73, Stefan<br> <br> Am 26.04.2016 17:28, schrieb Johan Bodin: <blockquote cite="mid:571F891B.3010109@tele2.se" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> Even more linear QRO for dreamer's band:<br> <br>  <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tas5630b.pdf">http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tas5630b.pdf</a><br> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2016-04-26 kl. 17:18, skrev Johan Bodin:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:571F86BF.5050403@tele2.se" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> Hi Stefan<br> <br> I thought about your 9kHz PA efforts when I found this class D PWM chip capable of ~300W up to 100kHz with very low distorsion. Amazing performance from such a small $6 SMD chip!<br> <br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa3251.pdf">http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tpa3251.pdf</a><br> <br> 73 de<br> Johan SM6LKM<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 2016-04-23 kl. 18:51, skrev DK7FC:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:571BA7FE.6080601@posteo.de" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> Hi all, <br> <br> Since about 16 UTC i'm transmitting on 8270.00500 Hz again. The antenna current is about 200 mA. It is a first test over a longer time with my new PA.<br> <br> I have been off the air for a few days now becuase i destroyed my audio amp that i used as a VLF PA. Somehow i started to like the idea of a clean sine wave coming from the PA. Low pass filters are hard to design for VLF, you know. Since i don't like buying and since i didn't find another one in the trash, i 'had to' (actually <i>wanted</i>) to build my own. It is a class-AB PA now running at 20V DC using 2x IRFP064N against ground. Opposite phase drive signals are generated by a small blue ferrite core with 20 quadfilar turns. On the primary side, 2 of these 4 windings are in series. On the scope, the signal looks quite good. The 3rd harmonic is at about -20 dBc, certainly improvable. But it's just version 0.2 now ;-) <br> A large ferrite core is used to up-transform the voltage to about 220V rms for this power level (i'm not spot on the resonance), also providing galvanic decoupling.<br> <br> A photo can be found at <br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184046.jpg">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184046.jpg</a><br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184059.jpg">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20160423_184059.jpg</a><br> <br> The PA consumes 3.6A at 20V DC now. Improvements will follow...<br> <br> The signal will stay on air for a few hours now.<br> <br> 73, Stefan<br> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------000809000503000709050400--