Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3PCuiw3024019 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:56:44 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aug0s-00044K-Ay for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:53:18 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aug0r-00044B-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:53:17 +0100 Received: from mailfe01.swip.net ([212.247.154.1] helo=swip.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1aug0p-0002kb-PU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:53:16 +0100 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from [81.224.101.198] (account cxu-dcw-tyr@tele2.se HELO [192.168.1.8]) by mailfe01.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPSA id 625124176 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:53:13 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <571CF2AD.9030207@posteo.de> <571D2BD4.3050205@abelian.org> <571D2E49.5070501@posteo.de> <571D325D.3090006@abelian.org> <571D3534.1000707@posteo.de> <571D3DF4.6050109@abelian.org> <571D45FE.9080408@posteo.de> From: Johan Bodin Message-ID: <571E1338.1050000@tele2.se> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:53:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <571D45FE.9080408@posteo.de> X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 212.247.154.1 (mailfe01.swip.net) used invalid HELO/EHLO swip.net - verification failed X-Scan-Signature: 195b836cb7437e99aa05107459888659 Subject: Re: VLF: Kites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7846 I 've had good experience with box kites. I used to play with the classic version many years ago. The lift is impressive already at moderate wind and may even become dangerous at strong winds (not joking!). Winged box kites, the "French military versions" et.c. may also be worth a look. 73 de Johan SM6LKM DK7FC wrote: > Hi Paul, > > With a 'power sled 36' i run LF transmissions in France. The kite was > up in the air for > 24 hours without a break. I even went to bed > (tent) while it stayed up :-) But of course it depends on the wind > stability. > That kite can carry 300m of wire , you know. > There is a smaller version called 'power sled 24' which is maybe even > a better choice when the wind is strong and the string is short. > > Looking forward to your first transmissions. > > 73, Stefan > > PS: A kite CW QSO on LF, that would be fine! > > Am 24.04.2016 23:43, schrieb Paul Nicholson: >> >> Here I am limited to 60m unless I notify the aviation >> authority (which I don't want to do), so I thought about >> using 2 or even 3 kites in a row each at 60m, spaced maybe >> 100m or so. >> >> Trying this cheap and simple single line parafoil >> >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LZWGKMY >> >> It says "stable and accurate flight". Well my experience is >> different! I think the winds are a bit too strong and it >> quickly becomes unstable. Next experiment will add two tails. >> >> I've got to give this cheap kite a good try, because the next >> size up is £50. It seems to have plenty of pull, enough to >> lift a thin wire, just need to make it stable... >> >> If I can get something to stay up for more than a few minutes, >> I might try some LF transmission. That could be entertaining. >> >> -- >> Paul Nicholson >> -- >> >> >> >> > >