Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u3OLkhgB022342 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:46:44 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1auRoF-0001y4-NQ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:43:19 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1auRoF-0001xv-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:43:19 +0100 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1auRoD-0000Un-NA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:43:18 +0100 Received: from pn.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971493273E5 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 22:42:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCC3400938 for ; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:43:16 +0000 (UTC) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <571CF2AD.9030207@posteo.de> <571D2BD4.3050205@abelian.org> <571D2E49.5070501@posteo.de> <571D325D.3090006@abelian.org> <571D3534.1000707@posteo.de> From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <571D3DF4.6050109@abelian.org> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:43:16 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <571D3534.1000707@posteo.de> X-Scan-Signature: 0a4643e586472c13187d293ec5d096c2 Subject: Re: VLF: Kites Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7834 Here I am limited to 60m unless I notify the aviation authority (which I don't want to do), so I thought about using 2 or even 3 kites in a row each at 60m, spaced maybe 100m or so. Trying this cheap and simple single line parafoil https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LZWGKMY It says "stable and accurate flight". Well my experience is different! I think the winds are a bit too strong and it quickly becomes unstable. Next experiment will add two tails. I've got to give this cheap kite a good try, because the next size up is £50. It seems to have plenty of pull, enough to lift a thin wire, just need to make it stable... If I can get something to stay up for more than a few minutes, I might try some LF transmission. That could be entertaining. -- Paul Nicholson --