Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u31ChFKX012312 for <sq5bpf@lipkowski.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:43:15 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1alyM7-0005qT-FA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:39:15 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1alyM7-0005qJ-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:39:15 +0100 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from <selberdenken@posteo.de>) id 1alyM5-0001qf-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 01 Apr 2016 13:39:13 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5588C20990 for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3qc1Ch1qKxz5vNM for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2016 14:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <56FE6BF0.8020206@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:39:12 +0200 From: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5699ee15d25b401f9991de9ad5c199ea@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <5699ee15d25b401f9991de9ad5c199ea@kabelmail.de> X-Scan-Signature: 3f12a6171cff302119f724e64afab799 Subject: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020109090704080904080605" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7543 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020109090704080904080605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Uwe, Could you try to start a message at 7...8 UTC? 4 hours is fine. You know, the QRN... Meanwhile my GPS module NEO-6M arrived here and i got it working. It consumes 58mA at 3.3V. I'm able to feed the 1pps to SpecLab and correct the soundcard drift + glitches. But NMEA (an improvement of NIVEA!) could be helpful too, so this is what i'm trying now. So far without success... 73, Stefan Am 01.04.2016 13:04, schrieb uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de: > Markus, > first: the decode is wrong > second: same procedure today, start of message 16:00:00 > third: pse try the decoder with redundency check (V0.4b) > > 73 > Uwe > PS. the carrier is on the air > > *Von:* Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> > *Gesendet:* 01.04.2016 12:04 > *An:* <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> > *Betreff:* Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz > Hi Uwe, > unfortunately static level was high, preventing your carriers before > and after the PSK from showing up in my spectrogram. The EbNaut > decoder produced "GL" at rank 13429 and -1 dB Eb/N0, but I have no > clue whether this message is really correct. > Best 73, > Markus > -----Ursprßngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> > An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> > Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 9:23 pm > Betreff: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz > Thanks Uwe. The late evening may not be ideal in terms of QRN > background but let's try anyway. I have pushed out the antenna again > (half height due to wind), and restarted the VLF grabbers with EbNaut > recording since19 UT. 8270.000 is still within EbNaut's bandwidth > (+-1/40 Hz) of your QRG so I hope that my new VLF neighbour Roland > won't fire up tonight. > All the best, > Markus (DF6NM) > -----Ursprßngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: uwe-jannsen <uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de > <mailto:uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de>> > An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>> > Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 6:38 pm > Betreff: AW: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz > the carrier is on the air. > there will be a special message for Markus: > start 22:00:00 > coding 8K19A > CRC 16 > period 40 > length 2 > duration 04:05:20:00 > Have fun > Uwe/dj8wx > > PS. rain would stop the transmission automatically. > > > *Von:* Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com <mailto:markusvester@aol.com>> > *Gesendet:* 24.03.2016 00:00 > *An:* <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>> > *Betreff:* VLF: 8270 March 22 > Yesterday afternoon the noise was fairly moderate, and around 18 UT I > caught a good dash in 63 uHz, presumably from DJ8WX. I then attempted > simulated EbNaut decodes on the carrier, using 1 and 2 character > settings and 40 s symbols. Both resulted in valid asterisk messages, > with some more margin to spare for the single character. So far I have > never decoded a real message on VLF, and I'd be keen to try... > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > --------------020109090704080904080605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hello Uwe, <br> <br> Could you try to start a message at 7...8 UTC? 4 hours is fine.<br> You know, the QRN...<br> <br> Meanwhile my GPS module NEO-6M arrived here and i got it working. It consumes 58mA at 3.3V.<br> I'm able to feed the 1pps to SpecLab and correct the soundcard drift + glitches. But NMEA (an improvement of NIVEA!) could be helpful too, so this is what i'm trying now. So far without success...<br> <br> 73, Stefan<br> <br> Am 01.04.2016 13:04, schrieb <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de:">uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de:</a> <blockquote cite="mid:5699ee15d25b401f9991de9ad5c199ea@kabelmail.de" type="cite"> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Markus,<br> first:       the decode is wrong<br> second: same procedure today, start of message 16:00:00<br> third:      pse try the decoder with redundency check (V0.4b)<br> <br> 73<br> Uwe<br> PS. the carrier is on the air<br> <br>  <div class="replyHeader" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); padding: 5px; background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249); line-height: 20px;"><b style="width: 80px; display: inline-block; font-size: 95%;">Von:</b> Markus Vester <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:markusvester@aol.com"><markusvester@aol.com></a><br> <b style="width: 80px; display: inline-block; font-size: 95%;">Gesendet:</b> 01.04.2016 12:04<br> <b style="width: 80px; display: inline-block; font-size: 95%;">An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"><rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org></a><br> <b style="width: 80px; display: inline-block; font-size: 95%;">Betreff:</b> Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz</div>  <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font style="background-color: transparent;">Hi Uwe,</font></font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">unfortunately static level was high, preventing your carriers before and after the PSK from showing up in my spectrogram. The EbNaut decoder produced "GL" at rank 13429 and -1 dB Eb/N0, but I have no clue whether this message is really correct.</font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Best 73,</font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Markus</font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">-----Ursprßngliche Mitteilung-----<br> Von: Markus Vester <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:markusvester@aol.com"><markusvester@aol.com></a><br> An: rsgb_lf_group <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"><rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org></a><br> Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 9:23 pm<br> Betreff: Re: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz</font><br>  <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_bf8e4b5d-2ef1-4c15-9c36-e166c3facda0"> <div class="aolReplacedBody"> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><font color="black" face="arial">Thanks Uwe. </font>The late evening may not be ideal in terms of QRN background but let's try anyway. I have pushed out the antenna again (half height due to wind), and restarted the VLF grabbers with EbNaut recording since19 UT. 8270.000 is still within EbNaut's bandwidth (+-1/40 Hz) of your QRG so I hope that my new VLF neighbour Roland won't fire up tonight.</font></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">All the best,</font></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Markus (DF6NM)</font></div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2">-----Ursprßngliche Mitteilung-----<br> Von: uwe-jannsen <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de">uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de</a>><br> An: rsgb_lf_group <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>><br> Verschickt: Do, 31 Mrz 2016 6:38 pm<br> Betreff: AW: VLF: 8270: now 8269.990Hz</font><br>  <div id="AOLMsgPart_0_f946c6d5-4c06-43e3-8638-fb5b6c17f5cf"> <div class="aolReplacedBody"> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">the carrier is on the air. </span><br> <span style="" lang="EN-GB">there will be a special message for Markus:</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">s<span style="" lang="EN-GB">tart </span><span style="" lang="EN-GB">22:00:00</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">coding 8K19A</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">CRC 16</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">period 40</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">length 2</span></font></div> <div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">duration 04:05:20:00</span></font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Have fun</span><br> <span style="" lang="EN-GB">Uwe/dj8wx<br> <br> PS. rain would stop the transmission automatically.</span><br> <br> <br>  </font> <div class="aolmail_replyHeader" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(223, 223, 223); padding: 5px; line-height: 20px; background-color: rgb(249, 249, 249);"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"><b style="width: 80px; font-size: 95%; display: inline-block;">Von:</b> Markus Vester <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:markusvester@aol.com">markusvester@aol.com</a>><br> <b style="width: 80px; font-size: 95%; display: inline-block;">Gesendet:</b> 24.03.2016 00:00<br> <b style="width: 80px; font-size: 95%; display: inline-block;">An:</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>><br> <b style="width: 80px; font-size: 95%; display: inline-block;">Betreff:</b> VLF: 8270 March 22</font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2">  </font> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt;"><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Yesterday afternoon the noise was fairly moderate, and around 18 UT I caught a good dash in 63 uHz, presumably from DJ8WX. I then attempted simulated EbNaut decodes on the carrier, using 1 and 2 character settings and 40 s symbols. Both resulted in valid asterisk messages, with some more margin to spare for the single character. So far I have never decoded a real message on VLF, and I'd be keen to try...</font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Best 73,</font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">Markus (DF6NM)</font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font> <div><br> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2">     </font></div> </div> </div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> </div> <font color="black" face="arial" size="2"> </font></div> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------020109090704080904080605--