Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2LGYTtY001278 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:34:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ai2iU-0000uF-Dg for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:30:06 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ai2iU-0000u6-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:30:06 +0000 Received: from erato-smout.broadpark.no ([80.202.10.26]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ai2iS-00009K-Fm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:30:04 +0000 MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from osl1cloudm2.nextgentel.net ([80.202.10.59]) by erato-smout.broadpark.no (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.01(7.0.4.27.0) 64bit (built Aug 30 2012)) with ESMTP id <0O4E00IWZDG03ZF0@erato-smout.broadpark.no> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:30:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.52] ([89.8.63.78]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id i2iOa4pW3UO0oi2iOathOv; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:30:00 +0100 X-Original-Source-IP: 89.8.63.78 To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk, "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" References: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E1924@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> From: Steinar Aanesland Message-id: <56F02188.1060208@broadpark.no> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:30:00 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 In-reply-to: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A444E5E57@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKn1Ao2VlZN1N7LFx91l7Za5Rg1sQeIkWA8ra7YbClBLPE4mvN8pjJ+KIc9fPTHZbTP3V/ADk/RlSLUMSv8u4HQzAiVh1DjW+L/dJRwo3I2so9xwslSccdnMNF9MB2Nts7sVKxI4wlZd1st3CTKB53SL0ViaZ5dvUClXS21Br0kT12P8dGNInLmyTo6rFuhCuDLf0N3GVENbPs+IJB/tsY3Pe2zJ4lJ93Njvy+g5ANMl X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] bandplan proposal at the next IARU Regon I Interim Meeting (Vienna,16-17 April 2016) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7452 " I wonder if NRRL consulted the few Norwegian hams that are active on 630 m and if other in societies the band users were asked for advice? " The simplest answer is no, and this is one of the reasons that I am not a member of NRRL anymore. LA5VNA S On 21-Mar-16 10:48, Rik Strobbe rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be [rsgb_lf_group] wrote: > Dear all, > > > > at the next IARU Regon I Interim Meeting (Vienna, 16-17 April 2016) there is a proposal that concerns the 630 m band: > > > > It is recommended that beacons will be accepted in the plan of usage of the 472 - 479 kHz band (630 m) in addition to the Recommendation VA14_C4_REC_02: 476 - 477 kHz beacons – maximum bandwidth 200 Hz. Maximum power output 1 W EIRP. Beacon proposals should adhere to beacon recommendations in the IARU Region 1 HF Managers' Handbook, and should be approved by the IARU Region 1 Beacon Coordinator (introduced by NRRL) > > > > Besides the fact that I am not a fan of the urge to put everything into strict rules and I have doubts about the usefulness of beacons (there are dozens of NDB's in and near the 630 m band), I do fear that an "official" beacon band might attract people or clubs to put up a nice "tech project" and leave us with the QRM. > > The targeted range (476-477 kHz) is de facto used for QRSS, a some "wideband" CW beacons can cause a lot of harm. > > > > I wonder if NRRL consulted the few Norwegian hams that are active on 630 m and if other in societies the band users were asked for advice? > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >