Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u2HI9PQQ024944 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:09:25 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1agcJG-00063S-6f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:06:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1agcJF-00063J-UE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:06:09 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1agcJE-0000Xq-CB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:06:08 +0000 Received: from sb.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9257C3273E4 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:05:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sb.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F03428A01D7 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <56EAF20F.7050008@abelian.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:06:07 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <56E526C8.5010401@abelian.org> <1536f9e8813-7821-7aea@webprd-m99.mail.aol.com> <56E5DCEF.4050905@abelian.org> <56E7090D.4090601@tiscali.co.uk> <56E7122E.1090907@abelian.org> <016f01d17e34$65318b80$2f94a280$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <016f01d17e34$65318b80$2f94a280$@comcast.net> X-Scan-Signature: c0336009bd9bab526ca27d297ea7579a Subject: Re: LF: EbNaut from Todmorden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7391 I tried the long wire at ELF - it was useless. No Schumann and it can't see transients from TLEs. In fact it was pretty poor at VLF which probably shows how well it couples to the trees. So, not a very good antenna. I took it down. I spotted a place where I could probably put up 200m of wire at about 8 metres, clear of any trees. It's further from the house though so would need a long coax to reach. I can borrow some scaffold poles from a neighbour. Not too far from a muddy spring (we have plenty of those) for a good RF ground. I'll need to buy some coax and some proper antenna wire. Stefan wrote (a week ago): > A T200-2 can be used for 1 kW ... A couple of those will arrive this week. Also was inspired by something that Andy posted recently about PAs powered from rectified mains. Somewhere in the shed there's a mains isolating transformer and a nice variac. I've a vague recollection that someone on the list said that you don't need an NoV for an earth antenna? Can anyone recall? I could run a wire for a km across the moors and terminate it in a bog. There's an industrial audio amplifier in the shed which is good for 4kW. Such a long earth loop would need quite a high driving voltage. Also in the shed is a big toroidal transformer, about 20cm diameter by 10cm thick, which might make a hefty audio transformer if the material is up to it. ... I dug the big toroid out. It has two windings, 400 turns giving 0.98H and 10 turns of 2cm wide copper strip for 395 uH. So about 6.17uH/turns^2. At 8270Hz 2.44V in gives 101.6V out. The amplifier is too heavy for one person to lift so I can't try it into the xfmr until an unsuspecting friend comes to visit. -- Paul Nicholson --