Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u1EJQBHL007525 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:26:11 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aV2FS-0001Zo-7t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:22:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aV2FR-0001Zd-Kn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:22:21 +0000 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aV2ES-0002m3-Hv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:22:20 +0000 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (dovecot03.posteo.de [172.16.0.13]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE49B2090C for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:21:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3q3JM33y0rz5vNH for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:21:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56C0D39E.4000906@posteo.de> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:21:02 +0100 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3981E6D8F52B4389AF4A28205EA12878@pcn5> <646987358B6E4B2CBE601BE218C95E25@Clemens0811> <42C1FBDEE9F542BC93D6A6B4FFD272BC@pcn5> In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: 1cb78c31825c7c80b3149495a451aa69 Subject: Re: LF: RE: De F6CNI : Testing this evening a short whip on WSPR2 MF. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040302030703000101030405" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6815 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040302030703000101030405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would rather imagine a propagation effect: Groundwave is no problem at all, like F4DTL/2. Later, skywave becomes possible for far distant stations first, like DL4RAJ. And even later, skywave becomes possible for closer stations outside the ground wave. But of course the local noise plays a big role too :-) And JN68 seems to be very clean. 73, Stefan 29 spots: Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -21 0 JN19qb 0.001 G4FKK IO91wi 356 317 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -24 0 JN19qb 0.001 PA0RDT JO11tm 274 4 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475614 -25 0 JN19qb 0.001 DK7FC JN49ik 389 82 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -26 0 JN19qb 0.001 G4GIR IO92sd 437 323 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475614 -22 0 JN19qb 0.001 DL4YHF JO42fd 496 44 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -26 0 JN19qb 0.001 G6AVK JO01ho 343 326 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -19 0 JN19qb 0.001 PA3ABK/2 JO21it 320 17 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -22 0 JN19qb 0.001 PA0A JO33de 502 23 2016-02-14 19:08 F6CNI 0.475612 -13 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475612 -24 0 JN19qb 0.001 G6AVK JO01ho 343 326 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475612 -20 0 JN19qb 0.001 PA0RDT JO11tm 274 4 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475612 -25 0 JN19qb 0.001 G4GIR IO92sd 437 323 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475612 -22 0 JN19qb 0.001 G4FKK IO91wi 356 317 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475614 -18 0 JN19qb 0.001 DL4YHF JO42fd 496 44 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475614 -26 0 JN19qb 0.001 DK2DB JN48fw 371 90 2016-02-14 18:58 F6CNI 0.475612 -14 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 18:50 F6CNI 0.475618 -22 0 JN19qb 0.001 G4FFC IO92tg 444 325 2016-02-14 18:50 F6CNI 0.475612 -24 0 JN19qb 0.001 G6AVK JO01ho 343 326 2016-02-14 18:50 F6CNI 0.475612 -15 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 18:36 F6CNI 0.475671 -16 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 18:22 F6CNI 0.475674 -14 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 18:22 F6CNI 0.475673 -22 0 JN19qb 0.001 G0HNW IO93cn 616 326 2016-02-14 18:12 F6CNI 0.475673 -24 0 JN19qb 0.001 G0HNW IO93cn 616 326 2016-02-14 18:12 F6CNI 0.475674 -21 0 JN19qb 0.001 DL4YHF JO42fd 496 44 2016-02-14 18:12 F6CNI 0.475674 -14 0 JN19qb 0.001 F4DTL/2 JN18fp 82 236 2016-02-14 17:56 F6CNI 0.475674 -25 0 JN19qb 0.001 PI4THT JO32kf 430 34 2016-02-14 17:48 F6CNI 0.475632 -23 -1 JN19qb 0.001 G0HNW IO93cn 616 326 2016-02-14 17:34 F6CNI 0.475632 -18 1 JN19qb 0.001 G3KEV IO94sh 641 337 2016-02-14 17:06 F6CNI 0.475635 -32 1 JN19qb 0.001 DL4RAJ JN68kj 700 92 Am 14.02.2016 19:44, schrieb Clemens Paul: > Hi Andy, > > I wonder why only stations over 600 km > >> copy my signal, >> and nothing from some stations which are below 300 km from >> here ??? HI ! >> > Probably a matter of low man made noise at the receiving location. > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F6CNI >> - Andy - JN19QB >> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 7:22 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: RE: De F6CNI : Testing this evening a short >> whip on WSPR2 MF. >> > > --------------040302030703000101030405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would rather imagine a propagation effect: Groundwave is no problem at all, like F4DTL/2. Later, skywave becomes possible for far distant stations first, like DL4RAJ. And even later, skywave becomes possible for closer stations outside the ground wave.
But of course the local noise plays a big role too :-) And JN68 seems to be very clean.

73, Stefan

29 spots:

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -21   0   JN19qb   0.001   G4FKK   IO91wi   356   317 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -24   0   JN19qb   0.001   PA0RDT   JO11tm   274   4 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475614   -25   0   JN19qb   0.001   DK7FC   JN49ik   389   82 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -26   0   JN19qb   0.001   G4GIR   IO92sd   437   323 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475614   -22   0   JN19qb   0.001   DL4YHF   JO42fd   496   44 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -26   0   JN19qb   0.001   G6AVK   JO01ho   343   326 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -19   0   JN19qb   0.001   PA3ABK/2   JO21it   320   17 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -22   0   JN19qb   0.001   PA0A   JO33de   502   23 
 2016-02-14 19:08   F6CNI   0.475612   -13   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475612   -24   0   JN19qb   0.001   G6AVK   JO01ho   343   326 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475612   -20   0   JN19qb   0.001   PA0RDT   JO11tm   274   4 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475612   -25   0   JN19qb   0.001   G4GIR   IO92sd   437   323 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475612   -22   0   JN19qb   0.001   G4FKK   IO91wi   356   317 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475614   -18   0   JN19qb   0.001   DL4YHF   JO42fd   496   44 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475614   -26   0   JN19qb   0.001   DK2DB   JN48fw   371   90 
 2016-02-14 18:58   F6CNI   0.475612   -14   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 18:50   F6CNI   0.475618   -22   0   JN19qb   0.001   G4FFC   IO92tg   444   325 
 2016-02-14 18:50   F6CNI   0.475612   -24   0   JN19qb   0.001   G6AVK   JO01ho   343   326 
 2016-02-14 18:50   F6CNI   0.475612   -15   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 18:36   F6CNI   0.475671   -16   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 18:22   F6CNI   0.475674   -14   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 18:22   F6CNI   0.475673   -22   0   JN19qb   0.001   G0HNW   IO93cn   616   326 
 2016-02-14 18:12   F6CNI   0.475673   -24   0   JN19qb   0.001   G0HNW   IO93cn   616   326 
 2016-02-14 18:12   F6CNI   0.475674   -21   0   JN19qb   0.001   DL4YHF   JO42fd   496   44 
 2016-02-14 18:12   F6CNI   0.475674   -14   0   JN19qb   0.001   F4DTL/2   JN18fp   82   236 
 2016-02-14 17:56   F6CNI   0.475674   -25   0   JN19qb   0.001   PI4THT   JO32kf   430   34 
 2016-02-14 17:48   F6CNI   0.475632   -23   -1   JN19qb   0.001   G0HNW   IO93cn   616   326 
 2016-02-14 17:34   F6CNI   0.475632   -18   1   JN19qb   0.001   G3KEV   IO94sh   641   337 
 2016-02-14 17:06   F6CNI   0.475635   -32   1   JN19qb   0.001   DL4RAJ   JN68kj   700   92 


Am 14.02.2016 19:44, schrieb Clemens Paul: 
Hi Andy, 

 I wonder why only stations over 600 km 
  
copy my signal, 
and nothing from some stations which are below 300 km from 
here ??? HI !
    
Probably a matter of low man made noise at the receiving location.

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of F6CNI 
- Andy - JN19QB
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 7:22 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: RE: De F6CNI : Testing this evening a short 
whip on WSPR2 MF.
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