Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u04KXqU9004696 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 21:33:52 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1aGBlk-0008DB-Eu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:30:20 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1aGBlj-0008D2-37 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:30:19 +0000 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aGBke-0007M5-Py for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:30:17 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1aGBkL-0005BK-4F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:28:53 +0100 Received: from localhost ([::1]:32875 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1aGBkK-0005Vk-W6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:28:53 +0100 Received: from mx1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.11]:47875) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1aGBhB-0003up-DH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:25:37 +0100 Received: from x4d0243c8.dyn.telefonica.de ([77.2.67.200]:58761 helo=[192.168.178.27]) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.85 #1) id 1aGBhB-0007fi-5A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:25:37 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <568A4048.4000001@vsas.de> <568A7620.7010506@gmx.de> <568AC4A5.4030407@charter.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Wolfgang_B=c3=bcscher?= Message-ID: <568AD53E.9080208@freenet.de> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 21:25:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Originated-At: 77.2.67.200!58761 X-Scan-Signature: f1284eec928b6c66f973fc41cf683e42 Subject: Re: WOLF (was: LF: DL-SWL) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080303000504030103000602" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6115 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080303000504030103000602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have pulled Stewart's original article out of a backup copy of WOLF (*), and placed it here: http://www.qsl.net/d/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_info.html I met Stewart personally in Friedrichshafen (he got there by train from Paris), but have not heard from him for a long time. I still have the original sources for the command line driven DOS program. But the coder / encoder / etc, written in C, is also available on the site which John already posted here. Cheers, Wolf (**) (*) the mode (**) the operator :) Am 04.01.2016 um 20:38 schrieb Andy Talbot: > Indeed - > What happened to WOLF (*) ? > > I've just tried Googling (**) it and find practically no hits. The > data mode seems to have been used successfully in the years around > 2001 and on, for a bit, but has faded. The URL I had for it is now > gives the magic 404. Didn't the first transatlantic contact on 137kHz > use this mode? > > I guess that as it used 10 baud BPSK, was considered too complicated > for the average LF Op. to generate. No one seems to use upconversion > from audio, and few seem to be able to make simple PSK encoders. > Even for EBnaut, relays are suggested as the means to reverse the > phase (yes, truely !!). I suppose, to be fair, 10 baud unfiltered > BPSK from a high power transmitter is a bit unkind to other band users. > > Andy G4JNT > > (*) Weak signal Operation at LF > (**) Other search engines are available - so it has been said. > > > On 4 January 2016 at 19:14, John Andrews > wrote: > > For those who may be newer to this part of our hobby, Hartmut > Wolff is somewhat of a legend in receiving TA signals in the 137 > kHz band. Night after night while others could only see Loran > lines and the debris from DCF39, Hartmut produced screenshots of > some pretty weak North American signals. He also gave reports on > the sadly-orphaned WOLF mode. As recently as last month, his > 137.780 kHz grabber showed my signal on nights that it was > invisible on the UK and other DL grabbers. > --------------080303000504030103000602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have pulled Stewart's original article out of a backup copy of WOLF (*), and placed it here:

http://www.qsl.net/d/dl4yhf/wolf/wolf_info.html


I met Stewart personally in Friedrichshafen (he got there by train from Paris), but have not heard from him for a long time. I still have the original sources for the command line driven DOS program. But the coder / encoder / etc, written in C, is also available on the site which John already posted here.

Cheers,
  Wolf (**)

(*) the mode

(**) the operator :)

Am 04.01.2016 um 20:38 schrieb Andy Talbot:
Indeed - 
What happened to WOLF  (*) ?

I've just tried Googling (**) it and find practically no hits.  The data mode seems to have been used successfully  in the years around 2001 and on, for a bit, but has faded.   The URL I had for it is now gives the magic 404.  Didn't the first transatlantic contact on 137kHz use this mode?

I guess that as it used 10 baud  BPSK,  was considered too complicated for the average LF Op. to generate.   No one seems to use upconversion from audio, and few seem to be able to make simple PSK encoders.   Even for EBnaut, relays  are suggested as the means to reverse the phase (yes, truely !!).    I suppose, to be fair, 10 baud unfiltered BPSK from a high power transmitter is a bit unkind to other band users.

Andy  G4JNT

(*) Weak signal Operation at LF
(**) Other search engines are available - so it has been said.


On 4 January 2016 at 19:14, John Andrews <w1tag@charter.net> wrote:
For those who may be newer to this part of our hobby, Hartmut Wolff is somewhat of a legend in receiving TA signals in the 137 kHz band. Night after night while others could only see Loran lines and the debris from DCF39, Hartmut produced screenshots of some pretty weak North American signals. He also gave reports on the sadly-orphaned WOLF mode. As recently as last month, his 137.780 kHz grabber showed my signal on nights that it was invisible on the UK and other DL grabbers.


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