Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB6EXYY1027240 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:33:34 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a5aKF-0004Sc-UA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:30:07 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a5aKF-0004ST-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:30:07 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a5aJE-0000sr-I2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:30:06 +0000 Received: from sb.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD623273A5 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 14:19:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sb.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27A328A0191 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 14:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5664461D.5010501@abelian.org> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 14:28:45 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <18682173.20151206131730@chriswilson.tv> In-Reply-To: <18682173.20151206131730@chriswilson.tv> X-Scan-Signature: ce0e5a4ae990e5a63db3ab7aea21191b Subject: Re: LF: Is this frequency locking enough for EbNaut? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5609 Chris Wilson 2E0ILY wrote: > I have my TS-590 transceiver locked to a Trimble > Thunderbolt 10MHz reference, using the device from here: > http://www.vk3hz.net/XRef/XRef_Home.html#XRef-Vx Excellent. And a useful link too. > can EbNaut be used with something like the TS-590, I'm sure it can be used for coherent BPSK, although we'll have to work out the best way. You've already done the hard (and expensive) part with the Thunderbolt (good choice) and the XRef board. Others will have better advice because I have no experience here, but I guess the next step is to digitise the audio output of the TS-590 through a PC soundcard, along with the PPS from the Thunderbolt. This is routinely done with Spectrum Lab for VLF reception and SL will have a setup file which uses the PPS to correct the undisciplined soundcard sample rate. Transmission is probably easy too via SL with the tx in SSB mode. With SL controlling the soundcard rate, it can output a precise frequency which you can modulate yourself, or use a built-in modulator in SL. Then you're geared up to transmit and receive coherent at LF and HF. That opens up some territory to explore! > is there, or will there be an idiot's guide to running > EbNaut? ;) SL has some notes on how to capture a received signal into a wav file for import into the decoder ebnaut-rx.exe http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/EbNaut_Rcvr.htm There's no idiot's guide, it's too new and experimental and every station running this has done things a different way making use of whatever tools and techniques they have available. It's a bit fiddly to set up but nothing fundamentally difficult. > is this frequency locking adequate, or how can I > tell if it is? You could transmit an LF carrier with the rig in CW mode and Markus and I will measure the frequency. That'll confirm the TS590 is locked. -- Paul Nicholson --