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Subject: Re: LF: Beverage on LF/MF
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Hello Alex,

Thank you, interesting to read!
I like to spend time alone in the nature. Siberia must be a very good 
place for that and for playing with laaarge antennas for LF/MF :-)

73, Stefan

Am 11.10.2015 19:40, schrieb Alex R7NT:
> Hi Dimitris VK2COW,
> Beverage was my favorite antenna for the reception at 136/500 kHz and 
> 160-80-40m
> I used beverage in all my LF DXpeditions - abt 2km long on Siberia 2 
> Rus LF DXpedition <http://136.73.ru/h_2rus/2rus.htm>   (MO94TL80QU) 
> and on Russian Far East 3 Rus LF DXpedition 
> <http://136.73.ru/h_3rus/3rus.htm> (PN63CI41RU) - abt 1.5km long to EU 
> and abt 4km to ZL.
> I used the enamel copper wire diameter of abt 0.5 mm to made the 
> beverage.
> I gested the beverage directly on the the ground (BOG) - this was a 
> temporary option. Weight of the enamelled copper wires with a diameter 
> of 0.5 mm is abt 1.8 kg per 1 km length
>
> I used the isolated wire (4 Cu + 3 Fe, 10.5kg per 1km ) 
> <http://www.informsystema.com/html/gsp.htm> for 1.2-2km long as BOG at 
> the stationary place on Machta (KN97LN09IG) until 2010. LF/MF beverage 
> can be placed under ground (10-30cm), I believe :-)
> Some ideas abt optimal h for 160-40m is on DL2KQ 
> <http://dl2kq.de/ant/kniga/4552.htm>  For example h opt for 240m 
> beverage on 160m is 0.1m (80m - 0.65m and 40m - 1.9m)  240m is 1.5 
> Lambda on 160m (940m - 630m). BV 2km long is fine RX ant for 136kHz
>
> 73! Alex R7NT 136.73.ru <http://136.73.ru>

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Hello Alex,<br>
<br>
Thank you, interesting to read! <br>
I like to spend time alone in the nature. Siberia must be a very good
place for that and for playing with laaarge antennas for LF/MF :-)<br>
<br>
73, Stefan<br>
<br>
Am 11.10.2015 19:40, schrieb Alex R7NT:
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 cite="mid:CAL-VeeMApvr+RoEtPn0T8+oWV4JV3B=j5x7cvy-bo2s=QNtvcg@mail.gmail.com"
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  <div dir="ltr">Hi Dimitris VK2COW,
  <div>
  <div>Beverage was my favorite antenna for the reception at 136/500
kHz and 160-80-40m</div>
  <div>I used beverage in all my LF DXpeditions - abt 2km long on
Siberia <a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://136.73.ru/h_2rus/2rus.htm">2 Rus LF DXpedition</a> 
 (MO94TL80QU) and on Russian Far East <a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://136.73.ru/h_3rus/3rus.htm">3 Rus LF DXpedition</a> (PN63CI41RU)
- abt 1.5km long to EU and abt 4km to ZL.</div>
  <div>I used the enamel copper wire diameter of abt 0.5 mm to made the
beverage. </div>
  <div>I gested the beverage directly on the the ground (BOG) - this
was a temporary option. Weight of the enamelled copper wires with a
diameter of 0.5 mm is abt 1.8 kg per 1 km length</div>
  <div><br>
  </div>
  <div>I used the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.informsystema.com/html/gsp.htm">isolated wire (4 Cu +
3 Fe, 10.5kg per 1km )</a> for 1.2-2km long as BOG at the stationary
place on Machta (KN97LN09IG) until 2010. LF/MF beverage can be placed
under ground (10-30cm), I believe :-)</div>
  <div>Some ideas abt optimal h for 160-40m is on <a
 moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://dl2kq.de/ant/kniga/4552.htm">DL2KQ</a> 
For example h opt for 240m beverage on 160m is 0.1m (80m - 0.65m and
40m - 1.9m)  240m is 1.5 Lambda on 160m (940m - 630m). BV 2km long is
fine RX ant for 136kHz</div>
  <div><br>
  </div>
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  <div dir="ltr">
  <div>73! Alex R7NT  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://136.73.ru"
 target="_blank">136.73.ru</a></div>
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