Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 104; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t8FAcBQA031409 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:38:11 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZbnYq-0000sk-NV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:34:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZbnYq-0000sb-EW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:34:04 +0100 Received: from omr-a020e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbnXq-0004lT-RB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:34:03 +0100 Received: from mtaout-aac01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aac01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.33]) by omr-a020e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 958503800084 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 06:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.82] (host81-154-58-189.range81-154.btcentralplus.com [81.154.58.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aac01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 22C0E38000087 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 06:32:43 -0400 (EDT) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1442168945.16595.YahooMailBasic@web173003.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <55F5E63F.6090409@posteo.de> <1014ADBF-6AB7-48A5-B96C-F668B9F8592B@talktalk.net> <142842C26C0A45DF90D3CE51CCF645A3@gnat> <5A15573A-C2AA-4C94-9D98-9DF0F1852957@talktalk.net> <55F6EBA9.10505@posteo.de> <55F7CF35.2020806@web.de> From: pat Message-ID: <55F7F3C9.7060906@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:32:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55F7CF35.2020806@web.de> x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1442313166; bh=dFMOIQO8Umeuvxn+hCMDmFYtIvEkZ6mQxkBi98EIxO8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OGdS9K0Yw81KKlv602quS4/fh/S7527r2FHW1A1kXLRZ54/DNNbpstbfprNkTRRfD srX+rbl6bK++v0iIv/nrOW+pWT/tej2VUi6udzXs1+J3RJ+7/40iWGVtwgBaVzVLes rLPZh81Sw4ASmfPaOabn/ykYuIn9y1LW3P9RxkcQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b022155f7f3cb6ce9 X-AOL-IP: 81.154.58.189 X-Scan-Signature: 66d07794ca19cd68f7d6cc289cd4ac18 Subject: Re: LF: Facebook LF/MF Amateur Radio Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4092 But is that always true? There are Linux distributions that claim to be 'anonymous' and allow untraceable internet use. "Tails" claims to be one such example allowing anonymous use and as a 'live' DVD OS will leave no trace on the computer. 73 On 15/09/15 08:56, Eike DL3IKE wrote: > Just ask the NSA. Arenīt they doing that? ;-) > BTW: on every website with a facebook-"f", the "f" is unique, that > means traceable. They are collecting and combining all "f"- and > IP-data, even if you are not a facebook member. > Maybe they donīt know your name, but they remember your trace. If you > donīt want that, you have to use an different computers and IP for > each website or only paper... > No matter, what you do, if you use the web, youīll be traced... > > 73s de Eike DL3IKE > > Am 14.09.2015 um 17:45 schrieb DK7FC: >> I agree 100%. >> >> And regarding the argument "There is a permanent loss of information >> (on blacksheep)": Then you need to save EVERY data of the radio >> bands, recording each QSO, each single QRN burst, you then >> permanently need to record the spectrum from 0...100 GHz because it's >> all information and often useful! >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 14.09.2015 03:03, schrieb Mal Hamilton: >>> Yahoo was not requested by the majority of Active LF operators at >>> the time but by a few trying to impose their will on others that >>> were content with blacksheep and still are >>> I do not want my LF/MF information stored on yahoo or twitter or >>> Facebook for ever. >>> There is an abundance of information available about LF/MF from >>> various other sources going back BC >>> G3KEV >> > > -- 73 de Pat G4GVW QTH Nr. FELIXSTOWE EAST COAST UK