Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t7MEAMtA018800 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:10:22 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZT9RP-00064l-Te for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:06:39 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZT9RP-00064c-HO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:06:39 +0100 Received: from mx02.posteo.de ([89.146.194.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZT9QQ-0005Qa-1X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:06:38 +0100 Received: from dovecot04.posteo.de (unknown [185.67.36.27]) by mx02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0659D25ACC5D for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot04.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3mz1h055cnzFpVk for ; Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55D8819A.1020900@posteo.de> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:05:14 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <55D73136.7040101@posteo.de> <1237831047.8588099.1440186224195.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1237831047.8588099.1440186224195.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> X-Scan-Signature: 1e15d6d6179985f133b43d42d658878a Subject: Re: LF: Re: Band is open to VK! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060509040906040905000301" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3938 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060509040906040905000301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 21.08.2015 21:43, schrieb John Langridge: > Out of curiosity, are most stations in Europe using directional RX > antennas or only omnidirectional/TX antenna? Most of us here state > side that have made it across at one time or another using WSPR or > other modes are using directional antennas. Just a matter of > curiosity on my part. As far as i know, most stations arround EU are using omnidirectional antennas. Maybe 10% are using loops or cardioid antennas? I know F6CNI and F1AFJ are using cardioid antennas. On my RX location in the city i'm using a small active omnidirectional E field antenna. On my remote RX site i'm preferring a loop beaming NW/SE. In some time i will have finished my stereo receiver for MF. The i can decide to use a T-antenna or a loop or a combination out of these two antennas resulting in a cardioid system. The advantage over e.g. a K9AY design is that i can use the configurations _simultaneously_, i.e. i can build (in SpecLab) a cardioid antenna beaming to NW AND a cardioid antenna beaming to SW AND an omnidirectional antenna, receiving to the same time :-) 73, Stefan --------------060509040906040905000301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 21.08.2015 21:43, schrieb John Langridge:

Out of curiosity, are most stations in Europe using directional RX antennas or only omnidirectional/TX antenna? Most of us here state side that have made it across at one time or another using WSPR or other modes are using directional antennas. Just a matter of curiosity on my part.

As far as i know, most stations arround EU are using omnidirectional antennas. Maybe 10% are using loops or cardioid antennas? I know F6CNI and F1AFJ are using cardioid antennas.
On my RX location in the city i'm using a small active omnidirectional E field antenna. On my remote RX site i'm preferring a loop beaming NW/SE. In some time i will have finished my stereo receiver for MF. The i can decide to use a T-antenna or a loop or a combination out of these two antennas resulting in a cardioid system. The advantage over e.g. a K9AY design is that i can use the configurations simultaneously, i.e. i can build (in SpecLab) a cardioid antenna beaming to NW AND a cardioid antenna beaming to SW AND an omnidirectional antenna, receiving to the same time :-)

73, Stefan

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