Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t6SJgCGZ032547 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:42:12 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ZKAhd-0007iK-Vh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:38:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ZKAhd-0007iB-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:38:17 +0100 Received: from out.ipsmtp2nec.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.202.74]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKAgm-0006GL-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:38:16 +0100 X-SMTPAUTH: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2BjBQCE2LdV/4gkaFgNToNpaYMjhEikcYZ+iS4QgQUZAQmFeQKCJgEBAQEBAYUuAQEBBCBYEQsRAwEBAQEJFgEBBgcJAwIBAgEPJQkIEwYCAQGIFQMfuTllCJBoCwKFLwEBAQEBBQEBAQEBAQEBFwMGi0iCTgmBTREBAj0BFwGCLjkUgTEFhxZMigmCfYR5hV8Bg3SMdYJ+hy2EJG4BgQ2BPgEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A2BjBQCE2LdV/4gkaFgNToNpaYMjhEikcYZ+iS4QgQUZAQmFeQKCJgEBAQEBAYUuAQEBBCBYEQsRAwEBAQEJFgEBBgcJAwIBAgEPJQkIEwYCAQGIFQMfuTllCJBoCwKFLwEBAQEBBQEBAQEBAQEBFwMGi0iCTgmBTREBAj0BFwGCLjkUgTEFhxZMigmCfYR5hV8Bg3SMdYJ+hy2EJG4BgQ2BPgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,565,1432594800"; d="scan'208,217";a="706271640" Received: from 88-104-36-136.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([88.104.36.136]) by out.ipsmtp2nec.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2015 20:37:12 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <250458229AB24864B6D6633036163504@AGB><1672351437585221@web27g.yandex.ru> <70D418B56B09425D8003F852AE318C2D@AGB> <81871438092585@web9j.yandex.ru> <6F0EBFD6E34B47FA86F11E8F99CA2A78@AGB> From: Gary - G4WGT Message-ID: <55B7D9E6.2060604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:37:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6F0EBFD6E34B47FA86F11E8F99CA2A78@AGB> X-Scan-Signature: 2fcbc04dadce9c5184c3f264b8d3aa9a Subject: Re: LF: Flash events Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080607010908090405090102" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3736 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080607010908090405090102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Graham, I note that VK2XGJ is running Opera v1.5.3, this could be a problem with frequency alignment ? v1.5.8 is decoding in 478.450 kHz to 478.550 kHz. v1.5.3 is decoding in 478.500 kHz to 478.600 kHz. 50% of the decoding area is outside the current versions limits. *73, de Gary - G4WGT MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html* . On 28/07/2015 19:27, Graham wrote: > VK2XGJ showing on the psk-map as monitoring 477 OP8 > As Laurence notes , round the gray line time , is the the time ! > First over the line wins a coco-nut ! > 73-G, > > Monitor: VK2XGJ Loc QF55JL > Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m) > Using: Opera v1.5.3/Rptr V1.6 > Antenna: RX Op8 > Show all seen by VK2XGJ > Last report:VK2XGJ > at Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:17:03 GMT > > *From:* Roman > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Flash events > > GD Laurence! > 28.07.2015, 07:46, "Laurence KL7 L" >: >> 2009-09-05 2008Z SM6BHZ 0.503951 -30 0 JO57wq 10 BY3A >> OM89ua 7254 55 > ...used 2.5K and vy effective umbrella 25ms high. >> >> >> Example above - Gus was in for multiple days around about the same >> time, just short of my daytime gray line - Antennae was PA0RDT atop a >> City tower block near Bohia Bay > I was vy surprised about mini-whip using in the city. This is unreal > in Moscow for example. Industrial noice and other interference vy high > from chinise power supply's here. > Why there was no interference in China?))) >> >> >> Laurence KL7L (BY3A et al) >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:14:17 +0100 >> Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 >> >> That's assuming the path stays open long enough , I think >> these are flash events , all the long haul on 500 has been >> single or I think 2 decodes for sm6bhz wspr to china , with tx >> at 100% duty , but upto now , there is not a solid data decode >> either way .. >> But its that time again soon : ) >> 73-G, >> *From:* Roman RW3ADB >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:55 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 >> Hi Graham! >> Op8 practically the same not more QRSS-3. >> QRSS-120 will be more really 146% I think -) >> As we are know 30m high ant vy effective for 477. Mal and DI2AM used >> the same on 500 many years ago. >> 140W real power, not QRPPPPP. >> >> 73! >> Roman >> Personal email: rw3adb@ya.ru >> I use rw3adb.rsgb.lf@gmail.com for >> LF group only. >> >> 2015-07-22 20:50 GMT+03:00 Graham > >: >> >> Why bother ? , at these levels , no need for the dynamic >> detector , should decode directly ....as OP8 >> 73-G, >> *From:* Roman >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:13 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Subject:* Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21 >> Khm.. Have a choice fly to Europe using QRSS-120... >> 15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK5ABN Op8 663 km -8 dB F:22% in Nairne with >> 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vertical >> 15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK2XGJ Op8 467 km -2 dB F:24% in Dapto, >> Australia with 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vert >> 22.07.2015, 19:12, "Graham" > >: >> >> Some significant signals rolling round VK at the >> moment on 477KHz ! >> Rx at Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:38:21 GMT >> From VK5FQ by VK2XGJ Loc QF55JL >> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -15dB >> Distance: 1119 km bearing 91ś >> Good time to leave the RX on 477 >> VK5FQ VK2XGJ >> 600m OPERA >> 1119 km 12:38:21 >> VK3ELV VK5ZVS >> 600m OPERA >> 703 km 12:19:41 >> VK5FQ VK3ELV >> 600m OPERA >> 703 km 12:38:22 >> VK3ELV VK5CV >> 600m OPERA >> 693 km 15:55:31 >> VK3ELV VK5ABN >> 600m OPERA >> 662 km 15:55:32 >> VK3ELV VK2XGJ >> 600m OPERA >> 467 km 15:13:39 >> VK5FQ VK5ABN >> 600m OPERA >> 40 km 13:08:21 >> VK5FQ VK5CV >> 600m OPERA >> 11 km 13:08:20 >> >> 73-G, >> >> -- >> 73! >> Roman, RW3ADB >> > -- > 73! > Roman, RW3ADB --------------080607010908090405090102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Graham,

I note that VK2XGJ is running Opera v1.5.3, this could be a problem with frequency alignment ?

v1.5.8 is decoding in 478.450 kHz to 478.550 kHz.
v1.5.3 is decoding in 478.500 kHz to 478.600 kHz.

50% of the decoding area is outside the current versions limits.
73, de Gary - G4WGT
                            
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On 28/07/2015 19:27, Graham wrote:
VK2XGJššš showingš on theš psk-mapš as monitoringš 477 OP8
As šLaurence notes ,š roundš theš gray lineš time , is theš theš time !
š
Firstš overš theš lineš wins aš coco-nutš !
š
73-G,
š
š

Monitor: VK2XGJ Loc QF55JL
Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m)
Using: Opera v1.5.3/Rptr V1.6
Antenna: RX Op8
Show all seen by VK2XGJ
Last report:šVK2XGJ
at Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:17:03 GMT
š
š

From: Roman
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Flash events

GD Laurence!
š
28.07.2015, 07:46, "Laurence KL7 L" <hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com>:
2009-09-05 2008Z SM6BHZš 0.503951šš -30šš 0šš JO57wqšš 10šš BY3Ašš OM89uašš 7254 55
š
...used 2.5K and vy effective umbrella 25ms high.
š

š
Example above - Gus was in for multiple days around about the same time, just short of my daytime grayšline - Antennae was PA0RDT atop a City tower block near Bohia Bay
š
I was vy surprised about mini-whip using in the city. This is unreal in Moscow for example. Industrial noice and other interference vy high from chinise power supply's here.
Why there was no interference in China?)))
š

š
Laurence KL7Lš (BY3A et al)
š
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:14:17 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21

That's assumingš theš pathš staysš openš long enoughš, I thinkš theseš areš flashš eventsš, allš theš long haulš on 500š hasš beenš singleš or I thinkš 2š decodesš forš sm6bhz wspr štoš chinaš, withš tx atš 100%š duty , butš uptoš now , thereš is not a solid dataš decode eitherš way ..
š
Butš itsš thatš timeš again soon : )
š
73-G,
š
š
š
š
š
š
š
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21
š
Hi Graham!
š
Op8 practically the same not more QRSS-3.š
QRSS-120 will be more really 146% I think -)
As we are know 30m high ant vy effective for 477. Mal and DI2AM used the same on 500 many years ago.
140W real power, not QRPPPPP.
š
š

73!
Roman
š
Personal email: rw3adb@ya.ru
I use rw3adb.rsgb.lf@gmail.comšfor LF group only.

2015-07-22 20:50 GMT+03:00 Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
Whyš bother ?š, at theseš levels , noš needš for theš dynamicš detector , shouldš decodeš directlyš....as OP8
š
73-G,
š
From: Roman
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119 km 12:38:21
š
Khm.. Have a choice fly to Europe using QRSS-120...
š
15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK5ABN Op8 663 km -8 dB F:22% in Nairne with 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vertical
15:55 477 VK3ELV de VK2XGJ Op8 467 km -2 dB F:24% in Dapto, Australia with 140w + 1/4 Wave Long Inverted L, 30 metres Vert
š
22.07.2015, 19:12, "Graham" <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
Someš significantšš signalsš rollingš roundš VK at theš momentš onš 477KHz !
š
Rx at Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:38:21 GMT
FromšVK5FQšbyšVK2XGJšLoc QF55JL
Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -15dB
Distance: 1119 km bearing 91ś
š
Goodš timeš toš leaveš theš RX on 477
š
VK5FQ VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 1119škm 12:38:21
VK3ELV VK5ZVS 600m OPERA 703škm 12:19:41
VK5FQ VK3ELV 600m OPERA 703škm 12:38:22
VK3ELV VK5CV 600m OPERA 693škm 15:55:31
VK3ELV VK5ABN 600m OPERA 662škm 15:55:32
VK3ELV VK2XGJ 600m OPERA 467škm 15:13:39
VK5FQ VK5ABN 600m OPERA 40škm 13:08:21
VK5FQ VK5CV 600m OPERA 11škm 13:08:20
š
73-G,
š
š
--
73!
Roman, RW3ADB
š
š
š
--
73!
Roman, RW3ADB
š

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