Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t51Fbvag006263 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:37:57 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YzRhb-0007iy-RP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:32:35 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YzRhb-0007ip-J7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:32:35 +0100 Received: from mx02.posteo.de ([89.146.194.165]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YzRha-0007Ir-1x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:32:34 +0100 Received: from dovecot03.posteo.de (unknown [185.67.36.28]) by mx02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0776E25A3DFE for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:32:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.posteo.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dovecot03.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3m0gVS4QH1z5vN2 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:32:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <556C7B10.8050101@posteo.de> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:32:32 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: c1f72e5acb1277e013f90c915ad7ad68 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Top loaded vertical spiral antenne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3399 Hi Marcel, Am 01.06.2015 16:52, schrieb Marcel Bos: > [...]About the tip from Stefan. > In my backyard i ve a vertical about 10 m (spiderbeam with wire) total > wire lengt 23 meters with atu cg3000. radials about 400 meters total. > different lenghts. > > Maybe i can try this vertical without the tuner to resonate with vario > meter to 472 khz? > > tnx for suggestions > > Marcel > PA9M Yes, i would do that. Nice to have a new station on the bnd soon. I already noticed your dx cluster entries during my CW activity ;-) I expect tha the 10m toploaded vertical will work well. But do not only use radials: It is important to use ground rods on LF/MF. A 2m deep metallic rod should work better then all radials together. Just start experimenting and see the different results. It is fun anyway :-) > > i will take some pictures this week. A good idea too. 73, Stefan