Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t4TJv8ia029160 for <sq5bpf@lipkowski.org>; Fri, 29 May 2015 21:57:09 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YyQJD-0005sW-SW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 20:51:11 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YyQJD-0005sN-D5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 20:51:11 +0100 Received: from smtp-out01.xworks.net ([31.25.48.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <DK1IS@kabelmail.de>) id 1YyQJB-000743-H2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 20:51:10 +0100 Received: from mailbackend3 (cluster06.xworks.net [10.100.1.80]) by smtp-out01.xworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195FF60C67 for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Fri, 29 May 2015 21:51:07 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=kabelmail.de Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kabelmail.de; s=mail; t=1432929067; bh=RefX87cjobJZTgIsrxwhmibNAoeGrTbdsEDmFIKQzjk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=2eiAx7dV12lrcE6Hu49I45LkuqqskkkrLrepTTVPw8h2L3p+WvnXAq+kJ6nerNCvn 3E2B+7u9XbCvCVOl4qMjvtPmyEu3eLqpLYOv3NB7s+XiKSHDlCsWb6KBoBfZsQJ/Gv UmiOE2Tgg6XkNjaqofygg9ji84uESrO7DJrogzpo= Received: from [192.168.178.33] (ip25042998.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [37.4.41.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpa.mediabeam.com with ESMTP id t4TJp35J011530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Fri, 29 May 2015 21:51:04 +0200 X-mediaBEAM-Originating-IP: [37.4.41.152] X-mediaBEAM-AUTHID: [DK1IS@kabelmail.de] Message-ID: <5568C334.5080509@kabelmail.de> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 21:51:16 +0200 From: DK1IS <DK1IS@kabelmail.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <AABLYTFFNAKZDRGJ@smtpout03.vgs.untd.com> In-Reply-To: <AABLYTFFNAKZDRGJ@smtpout03.vgs.untd.com> X-mediaBEAM-AuthCheck: route13 X-mediaBEAM-AuthScore: 0.0/5.0, scanned in 1.937sec X-Scan-Signature: 75bd9e83b9a4dd6aff3296cebc5bb885 Subject: Re: LF: Antennas on low bands : the Siegel and Labus books. Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020301000506080905040408" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3347 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020301000506080905040408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 29.05.2015 um 18:30 schrieb riese-k3djc@juno.com: > has anyone tried a DDRR antenna on LF > there is info on them in one of the arrl antenna books and I use one on > 144 very small but appears to work as well as a 5/8 wave > appears as a small horziontal loop but radiates as a vert > most odd thing but works well on 2 meters > Bob K3DJC .... so it did on 10 meters, lying on the wardrobe of my student digs in the 1970s: wkd WAC in CW with 50 W. But sorry up to now no experiences on LF - the spacers seem to be rather long and for a real circle you need a lot of them ;-) 73 es gl de Tom, DK1IS www.qrz.com/db/dk1is --------------020301000506080905040408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtpa.mediabeam.com id t4TJp35J011530 <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Am 29.05.2015 um 18:30 schrieb <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:riese-k3djc@ju= no.com">riese-k3djc@juno.com</a>:<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:AABLYTFFNAKZDRGJ@smtpout03.vgs.untd.com" type=3D"cite"> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" http-equiv=3D"content-type"> <meta name=3D"GENERATOR" content=3D"MSHTML 11.00.9600.17801"> <div>has anyone tried a DDRR antenna on LF</div> <div>there is info on them in one of the arrl antenna books and I use one on <br> 144 very small but appears to work as well as a 5/8 wave</div> <div>appears as a small horziontal loop but radiates as a vert</div= > <div>most odd thing but works well on 2 meters</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Bob K3DJC</div> <div>=A0</div> </blockquote> ... so it did on 10 meters, lying on the wardrobe of my student digs in the 1970s: wkd WAC in CW with 50 W.<br> But sorry up to now no experiences on LF - the spacers seem to be rather long and for a real circle you need a lot of them ;-)<br> <br> 73 es gl de<br> Tom, DK1IS<br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"http://www.qrz.com/db/d= k1is">www.qrz.com/db/dk1is</a><br> <br> </body> </html> --------------020301000506080905040408--