Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.144]) by air-db01.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDB014-86954d2709f4160; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:41:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EA0C8380000AC; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PbBcO-0005VE-V9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:40:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PbBcO-0005V5-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:40:32 +0000 Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.193]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PbBcO-0004dw-9N for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:40:32 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.182] by nm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 12:40:26 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.72] by tm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 12:40:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2011 12:40:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 664565.68429.bm@omp1033.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 81367 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2011 12:40:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1294404026; bh=5LtSlBJmeMwz8PmknWPKlwA6BzraP3jGbw8DlhbrEUg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hUD5Rb84DAbkMVmp8o0XBTWMTW8WMxVoX+q+YvbNhSZlNZ1A7pg9IQDahOoXZlkeFZ4LVcZerUiFLDLyt1CKVJ8pc+w9A0YEiDfoMcGB6Op4k3Q04ctihtZi1sKUsCjwykRSg13W5ufj0a6MhVH+ClHS0v6enMeof0rfzfkNFEg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BXqM+aQnpgEPwkVw9qt6wRX9TeI4IdwclGNJRL9rsnlFIkBiS2T5dYxOFhn0Z3fWKMj1eVsOgx3PFwJrBzJYTJCg4Pudb3DGLc0E4SALMEMg47QrGsqFzq3/aqjOSWccQhgVcv6Gro9G8IqlKvvzOJL0hK0KVD5eXbli3zGUKpQ=; Message-ID: <556535.74415.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: utMME.MVM1lq6WLTkFaoJM86Azx8Bhz1EKk4yBhSd890kCF pi5fuiR7oKlsNjXHe2xPr3ZqzWYejlm834ZblTkrH0qouYTPe5bleDfvLlW7 nlWLYi04OzZh2Dy81UIl75JxKizK7iYuPfXmarsNwsOJr2yG4BhObNHqCTZr u.kE_zRs9AFTFrRGLQzPZgXeuTknme6coQGI6M7WUDhVC1ZOyKiZqQwp7pOS SBxbjll12EBEfgZpuYxNGKA._oI59DC.j3a_YTZ5iYHS1nspxK6y.y9Xi33p H2p.yZgIk7CW73XdB_Ienco2zwWPhITWdrtt5syYT1L4QmjohfWb6A6oNlZ5 A8nGaEygpPOw- Received: from [86.142.154.139] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:40:26 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <002801cbadf3$1e15bb70$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <1294359648.6336.6.camel@vaio3rd> <001501cbae53$54fee2a0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D26EE51.8010706@o2.ie>,<001f01cbae5c$01cc94c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:40:26 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1273843525-1294404026=:74415" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m005.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40904d2709ea458a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 --0-1273843525-1294404026=:74415 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rik You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit of a sop.= All due=20 respect to the bloke. I=A0remember, I think it was "Wireless World"=A0a pr= oper=20 Journal in the 50/60s had a Log=A0/ Linear=A0graph=A0providing a simple wa= y to convert=20 from c/s to Hz when the Hz was introduced. =A073 es GL petefmt=20 I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP.=20 ________________________________ From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Sent: Fri, 7 January, 2011 12:22:38 Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to=20 > FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE those who prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (when the= SI=20 system was introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles per second"= , just=20 "cycles" is meaningless. > Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technicall= y > inapproapriat when describing Frequency. So we also have to get rid of Farad (named after Michael Faraday), Volt=20 (Alexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re (Andr=E9-Marie Ampere), Henry= (Joseph=20 Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Joule (James Joule), Watt= (James=20 Watt) and so on ... A lot of work to do ;-) 73, Rik=A0 ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g]=20 namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time Tony In the electronic context. There are CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to FREQUENCY of OCCURENCE and can be observed on a 'Scope for example but what does a HERT= Z look like. Hertz is a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technically inapproapriat when describing Frequency. Rumour has it that one EU member state wants a RESISTOR renamed BANSHEE G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > Maybe at the same time we could ask other people to use SI units of > frequency ? > > 73, Tony, EI8JK. > > > On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton wrote: > > GD Rick > > Your message about grabbers vy useful. Could you ask Grabber operators to > > use UTC please. > > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick Wakatori"<7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM > > Subject: LF: JA GRRABBERS at a same time > > > > > >>=A0 =A0 The following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry opend in Japan= . > >> Please try to access when your computer works well. > >> http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers.html > >> > >> -- > >> -.. .=A0 --...=A0 .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Kanagawa,Japan(JP) > >> URL =3D http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > =20 --0-1273843525-1294404026=:74415 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rik
 
You have to admit that the introduction of the Hertz was a bit of a= sop. All due respect to the bloke. I remember, I think it was "Wirel= ess World" a proper Journal in the 50/60s had a Log / Linear&nbs= p;graph providing a simple way to convert from c/s to Hz when the Hz= was introduced.
 
73 es GL petefmt=20


I support www.NotSpotTelecom.Com your community Telco / ISP.=20


=
From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.= Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&g= t;
Sent: Fri, 7 January= , 2011 12:22:38
Subject: RE: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time

> There are CYC= LES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to
> FREQUENCY of OCCURE= NCE
those who prefer to use units that were decommissioned in 1960 (whe= n the SI system was introduced) should at least do it correct : "cycles pe= r second", just "cycles" is meaningless.

> Hertz is a meaningles= s label in fact its someones Name and is technically
> inapproapriat= when describing Frequency.
So we also have to get rid of Farad (named= after Michael Faraday), Volt (Alexander Volta), Ohm (Simon Ohm), Amp=E9re= (Andr=E9-Marie Ampere), Henry (Joseph Henry), Coulomb (Charles-Augustin de Coulomb), Jou= le (James Joule), Watt (James Watt) and so on ...
A lot of work to do= ;-)

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


________________________= ________________
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.ne= t]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 januari 2011 12:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABB= ERS at a same time

Tony
In the electronic context.
There are= CYCLES, KILOCYCLES and MEGACYCLES all related to FREQUENCY of
OCCURENCE and can be observed= on a 'Scope for example but what does a HERTZ
look like.
Hertz is= a meaningless label in fact its someones Name and is technically
inapp= roapriat when describing Frequency.
Rumour has it that one EU member st= ate wants a RESISTOR renamed BANSHEE

G3KEV



----- Ori= ginal Message -----
From: "Tony" <ei8jk@o2.ie>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, January 07,= 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: JA GRRABBERS at a same time

=
> Maybe at the same time we could ask other people to use SI units= of
> frequency ?
>
> 73, Tony, EI8JK.
>
>> On 07/01/2011 10:12, mal hamilton wrote:
> > GD Rick
&g= t; > Your message about grabbers vy useful. Could you ask Grabber operators
to
>= > use UTC please.
> > Tnx de Malcolm/G3KEV
> >
&g= t; > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Wakatori"<= ;7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>
> > To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent= : Friday, January 07, 2011 12:20 AM
> > Subject: LF: JA GRRABBERS= at a same time
> >
> >
> >>    Th= e following URL shows 7 LF grabbers currentry opend in Japan.
> >= > Please try to access when your computer works well.
> >>= http://www003.upp.so-net.ne.jp/JH1GVY/ja-grabbers.html
&g= t; >>
> >> --
> >> -.. .  --...  .-.. .---- .-. .-..= .-.. .-.-.
> >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Kanagaw= a,Japan(JP)
> >> URL =3D http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/= radio.html
> >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-...= ...-.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>= >
>
>

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