Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t4R0Edx2017965 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:14:39 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YxOx2-0005fU-Qe for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:12:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YxOx2-0005fL-F1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:12:04 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YxOx0-00034s-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:12:03 +0100 Received: from crusoe.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (crusoe.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.248]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t4R0C1Ff018538 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:12:01 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by crusoe.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3B0E024D for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55650BD1.1070207@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 02:12:01 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Scan-Signature: f62c7cf8eeb8e5a327b71719e9bffff1 Subject: LF: Small MF ferrite antenna games Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3303 MF, Today i've played a bit with a small ferrite antenna for 630m. It is 14 cm long and has 8 mm diameter. Without any calculations i wound a winding of unknown number of turns around the rod and quickly found C about 200 pF at resonance (475 kHz). Then i added a few turns for a 50 Ohm output (measuring the voltage of an induced signal at resonance. When applying 50 Ohm, the voltage has to decrease to 50%) to the RX. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/small%20MF%20ferrite%20antenna.jpg As expected the input signal is to low, it does not rise the noise of the RX, so i'm missing about 20 dB. It can't be much more though because i can receive IQ2MI/B clearly in QRSS-30 on 476.180 kHz with 25 dB SNR in 122 mHz, see attachment. The antenna is hanging in 6m AGL in a tree in my garden... I'm playing with the idea of a rotary H-field RX antenna for MF, maybe in combination with a stereo receiver and a E-field antenna. Oh and maybe with a colour spectrogram as known from DF6NM. A lot of things to do :-) 73, Stefan PS: Yesterday, in a CW QSO with DK6SX/p on the loop he once completely disappered into QSO which never happend before when receiving on a omni-directional antenna. So i guess the colour changes in such a spectrogram must be quite interesting and informative...