Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1102; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t2KHdkZu024007 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:39:46 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YZ0r8-0000Rv-73 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:37:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YZ0r7-0000Rm-Us for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:37:09 +0000 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.24]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YZ0r6-0006fL-AV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:37:08 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.104] ([217.82.5.251]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M5Ozn-1ZRmPN2v8R-00zVpZ for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:37:06 +0100 Message-ID: <550C5AC1.8050101@df3lp.de> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:37:05 +0100 From: pws User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4698D0522AFD45F896A41F2D16A2D831@AGB> <19EEF7A6DD30462FA6ACC0F015DC9F52@AGB> <5509E3D5.90900@gmail.com> <550ABA88.4010605@gmail.com> ,<550C4622.4010505@df3lp.de> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A234EF85F@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A234EF85F@ICTS-S-MBX1.luna.kuleuven.be> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:q7RbgZCLUTshFuVFvhzuI/nR4ilW7c0lAUwnhr+jvPaSsiUSFXp HUygP8Ww8olLv5LJDLgqN3ULec/ybsy7D1u7o2j3H0olq2cxjkQTYhlLru6cZBSI8JcWegh 9ITPD7WUgn6xloxQKF9iTM3/ruk3ghmCgrTtQauu4mxEys5yBDisApcNEmEdBAkckbIs3Ix 507dwPyybu5wCdv39fzMw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Scan-Signature: 0a4643e586472c13187d293ec5d096c2 Subject: Re: LF: Eclipse/137.777 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2737 Hi Rik, > ... > I am not sure thatthe morningdip is relatedto the eclips, > the propagation path didn'tcross the eclips line at anytime. > ... There's no need that the signal of interest must cross the eclipse line. The ionosphere height is influenced over all paths where the eclipse can be seen. How strong this influences signals depends mainly on the phase difference between ground and sky wave or between the phases from multiple hop propagation. HGA22 is at 1000km of distance from here. That's nearly optimal for this interferometric effects on LF. > ... > Looking at the > graphs, knowing therewas an eclpis but not knowing when itwas, mybest gues would be14h15. > ... Please compare both plots from yesterday and today. There's a clear "W-shape" observable in magnitude around 0945 ut. 73 de df3lp, Peter