Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t18NOUkG028608 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 00:24:30 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YKbAL-0006CY-BK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:21:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YKbAL-0006CP-1e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:21:25 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>) id 1YKbAJ-0006bY-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 23:21:23 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id z2so2319111wiv.1 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=TGuwSgAmtRAOW3RV8SfNxbw+BVJU6ZykCeZoqxmEwnQ=; b=z1bX6xeYVh71ISk3y2o+uBj1vHDCnXLTE4V7jugSD2IKLa5IOvY16BY+Lew034cOpc t3fgn1tJM8A/mXiijYIeZs2WRr2dUEbC6vn7ghJRmiLa4CrF/oBHbdVXltLF2Ks3w5YM cibJu23O3z2yXGdHAw34Z5Nc38uQMTYWntVqRy4w0aTnRtvVhhaCAxqNxg3Fs99dgXPB bttm2q2tj5xLtk8cNNtOkKpBLE6Xaa/8/wKzBLNfd7qTyh4dg7hhIx4sihRySywE6kUM 9JjAC3n7KeHQlaLh/zMSHqSsHZbW3GVs2FHKq1VYVkDzANGRdwVbPaVOxWz5kWGZBeLh Xdxg== X-Received: by 10.194.120.40 with SMTP id kz8mr35728566wjb.21.1423437682283; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de. [129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o7sm11902815wix.12.2015.02.08.15.21.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Feb 2015 15:21:21 -0800 (PST) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54D7EF70.70900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 00:21:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <54D77171.6000107@gmail.com> <54D7E234.8080004@gmail.com> <59BE4EF9AA5A441481B7F111843F3B47@White> In-Reply-To: <59BE4EF9AA5A441481B7F111843F3B47@White> X-Scan-Signature: 7f2e5481aa97b3cbff3d653a1b2ddfbd Subject: Re: LF: WSPR MF please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040004010509070603010403" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2287 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040004010509070603010403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Markus, Am 08.02.2015 23:41, schrieb Markus Vester: > Stefan, > so it looks like your two receivers provide some spatial diversity, > simultaneously listening to both may be useful to overcome fading > nulls during QSOs. On the other hand, the advantage of a lower noise > location may become much more pronounced in daylight. So you'll have > benefits both night and day ;-) > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > Yes but i've started the experiment in daylight and there is not so much difference. In this test the remote RX + USB soundcard was connected to my netbook, it was not (yet) a vorbis stream. I still have some internet connectivity problems which i will solve the next week. Then there will be an experiment using the remote vorbis stream. BTW there is a second WLAN hotspot from a university building which is 1 km closer than my own AP and it is in the same direction. I can install both hotspots. This may rise the availability of the stream (strong rain, snow...). I will then run a grabber window, showing 2 spectrograms (home and remote) focusing to the WSPR or CW section side by side. Then we will see the QSB between both locations :-) 73, Stefan --------------040004010509070603010403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Markus,

Am 08.02.2015 23:41, schrieb Markus Vester:
Stefan,
 
so it looks like your two receivers provide some spatial diversity, simultaneously listening to both may be useful to overcome fading nulls during QSOs. On the other hand, the advantage of a lower noise location may become much more pronounced in daylight. So you'll have benefits both night and day ;-) 
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)


Yes but i've started the experiment in daylight and there is not so much difference. In this test the remote RX + USB soundcard was connected to my netbook, it was not (yet) a vorbis stream. I still have some internet connectivity problems which i will solve the next week. Then there will be an experiment using the remote vorbis stream. BTW there is a second WLAN hotspot from a university building which is 1 km closer than my own AP and it is in the same direction. I can install both hotspots. This may rise the availability of the stream (strong rain, snow...).
I will then run a grabber window, showing 2 spectrograms (home and remote) focusing to the WSPR or CW section side by side. Then we will see the QSB between both locations :-)

73, Stefan
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