Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1169; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t17A1uF6019756 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 11:01:57 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YK21j-0008Tw-54 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:50:11 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YK21i-0008Tn-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:50:10 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YK21g-0002a1-Of for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:50:09 +0000 Received: from sb.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC2F3273E8 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:47:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sb.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E1028A01E6 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <54D5DFCE.8080003@abelian.org> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:50:06 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <53149f4ff6ef409d9dfe99902b4573d2@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <53149f4ff6ef409d9dfe99902b4573d2@kabelmail.de> X-Scan-Signature: 9d01e9df836df8dd3868645661e1c1f7 Subject: Re: VLF: 8270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2268 Uwe wrote: > did you record your VLF spectrum the last days ? Yes it is always recording. I am looking for your message on all of the days you list. But, so far with no success. It is very strange because the signal seems quite strong. Sometimes you sent some carrier before and after the messages. The carrier has good signal strength and should decode easily with Eb/N0 of +2dB or more. I confirmed this by running some of your carrier into the decoder. With this coding scheme, a steady carrier is a valid message (with any symbol period or coding) and the carrier decodes fine, even with much shorter symbol periods. (The code is linear, so the all-zero-bits message is representative of any message). I don't know what is wrong. Only one transmission shows a hint of reference phase (after squaring) and on that one, the symbol timing looks fine (unless it is out by 10 seconds or some other multiple of the symbol period). But it still doesn't decode. Does everything look ok at your end Uwe? Are you using wsend2v2.exe and is the relay operating reliably? I took some phase measurements from the bits of carrier and it looks fairly steady. Although the before and after carriers on 2015-02-03 have quite different phase. Yesterday you sent a long carrier. In 10 minute steps the phase was 2015-02-06_12:30 -106.2 2015-02-06_12:40 -117.5 2015-02-06_12:50 -83.7 2015-02-06_13:00 -142.0 2015-02-06_13:10 -94.7 2015-02-06_13:20 -92.0 2015-02-06_13:30 -95.3 2015-02-06_13:40 -126.7 2015-02-06_13:50 -116.1 2015-02-06_14:00 -112.1 2015-02-06_14:10 -90.5 2015-02-06_14:20 -136.8 2015-02-06_14:30 -89.6 2015-02-06_14:40 -74.5 2015-02-06_14:50 -89.2 2015-02-06_15:00 -101.8 2015-02-06_15:10 -104.5 It is jumping about a bit but is not too bad. I sent 9440 seconds of this carrier into the decoder and it decoded easily with Eb/N0 at +1.5dB estimated from the symbol error rate. I continue to investigate - this should decode very easily, signal strength is well above the limit for this mode. -- Paul Nicholson --