Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t0BEFTCF026724 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:15:29 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YAJCP-0007tn-3T for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:09:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YAJCO-0007te-P6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:09:00 +0000 Received: from out.ipsmtp3nec.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.202.75]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YAJCM-0006Oz-3l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:08:59 +0000 X-SMTPAUTH: g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBANyCslRYaCOO/2dsb2JhbAANToNYxlOFcQKBSQEBAQEBhQoBAQR4EQsEFAkWDwkDAgECAUUTCAEBiDW1Z5QQAQEIAQEBAR6NWIE/EQECVYQpBZIChlcwjH+DOoQQbwGBC4E3AQEB X-IPAS-Result: ApUBANyCslRYaCOO/2dsb2JhbAANToNYxlOFcQKBSQEBAQEBhQoBAQR4EQsEFAkWDwkDAgECAUUTCAEBiDW1Z5QQAQEIAQEBAR6NWIE/EQECVYQpBZIChlcwjH+DOoQQbwGBC4E3AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,737,1413241200"; d="scan'208,217";a="405055594" Received: from 88-104-35-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([88.104.35.142]) by out.ipsmtp3nec.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 11 Jan 2015 14:08:40 +0000 Message-ID: <54B283EB.9000706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:08:43 +0000 From: Gary - G4WGT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <54B27BEB.3956.9F1641@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <54B27BEB.3956.9F1641@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> X-Scan-Signature: e57013951ca4c86ddcf48e741efd2b78 Subject: Re: LF: Opera true/false? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040904090302060301020308" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1947 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040904090302060301020308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mike, The ....... "Red = probably not" ..... should show up as Orange. Quote from Jose's email :- This test version show green spots with 2 or more decodes orange spots with only one deep search happen It is on mine & cannot be mistaken for red. Monitor colour adjustment required ?? But not always possible as the feature may not be in the monitor set up menu. *73, de Gary - G4WGT MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html * . On 11/01/2015 13:34, Mike Dennison wrote: > In the last 24 hours on 136kHz there have been several Opera decodes > flagged up with question marks (and shown in red), indicating they > need further examination to determine whether they are genuine true > decodes. > > Amongst the obviously false ones are SV8CS and 2E0ILY reporting > JA8SCD who claimed to be running very low power. SV8CS was also > reported by JA8SCD/1 but was not reported in Europe at the same time. > > > A couple of spots of UA4WPF are unlikely, especially one by JA8SCD/1 > over a daylight path. > > More probable are various reports of LA3EQ's QRP tests overnight by > DL-SWL, though the report from RW3ADB may not be good. > > The reliable, true Deep Search reports (shown in green) included > SV8CS de SP5XSB, RN3AGC de 2E0ILY and RN3AGC de G0KTN, which are all > paths that would not have been reported without Deep Search. > > Just looking at a single night it appears that the current system of > red = 'probably not' and green = 'highly likely' (my description) > works well. > > A couple of times, a station was decoded by Deep Search, and then 10 > minutes or so later were reported by the same station using regular > Op at a much higher S/N. This effect is also seen on OPDS. > > The only minor problem is that reports of your own signal are also > shown in red, which is slightly confusing. > > So far, so good. > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== > > --------------040904090302060301020308 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Mike,

The ....... "Red = probably not" ..... should show up as Orange.

Quote from Jose's email :-
This test version show green spots with 2 or more decodes
orange spots with only one deep search happen


It is on mine & cannot be mistaken for red.

Monitor colour adjustment required ??
But not always possible as the feature may not be in the monitor set up menu.
73, de Gary - G4WGT
                            
MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html
Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html

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On 11/01/2015 13:34, Mike Dennison wrote:
In the last 24 hours on 136kHz there have been several Opera decodes 
flagged up with question marks (and shown in red), indicating they 
need further examination to determine whether they are genuine true 
decodes.

Amongst the obviously false ones are SV8CS and 2E0ILY reporting 
JA8SCD who claimed to be running very low power. SV8CS was also 
reported by JA8SCD/1 but was not reported in Europe at the same time. 


A couple of spots of UA4WPF are unlikely, especially one by JA8SCD/1 
over a daylight path.

More probable are various reports of LA3EQ's QRP tests overnight by 
DL-SWL, though the report from RW3ADB may not be good.

The reliable, true Deep Search reports (shown in green) included 
SV8CS de SP5XSB, RN3AGC de 2E0ILY and RN3AGC de G0KTN, which are all 
paths that would not have been reported without Deep Search.

Just looking at a single night it appears that the current system of 
red = 'probably not' and green = 'highly likely' (my description) 
works well.

A couple of times, a station was decoded by Deep Search, and then 10 
minutes or so later were reported by the same station using regular 
Op at a much higher S/N. This effect is also seen on OPDS. 

The only minor problem is that reports of your own signal are also 
shown in red, which is slightly confusing.

So far, so good.

Mike, G3XDV
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