Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sBLM6mtL004851 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:06:49 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y2oY2-0006Ma-7f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:00:22 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y2oY1-0006MR-K0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:00:21 +0000 Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com ([74.125.82.50]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>) id 1Y2oXz-0003mJ-TH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:00:20 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a1so5339324wgh.23 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:00:18 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=googlemail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=2fFUEKfOqe76s21Clq8Z7YWei75djfKh6kwdhnUFrDI=; b=K2+ti3U4CUSptH79I//J6LL1BCo6RjeNJhnF2BB2csXeNkKKZ/pIXbAHSnoXwGWSZZ bZk/CLzSVDYIUKRk/lPcuNicAIMgsTGlGkbIZ36GmVfJ3K+hFUcFcp2FnvP1wwJy7BLW 8zUD0tOocr6XPeXOzP7gFiJnA7PBdaKPlO84p3jdJ6ImVRaluRXU1sYMMn2Td3MAS+uz LVsXBTDUW9if2jcedTb8DMUqdMuyOjoHKni98ECz62FkNHGtA6mJSPEPJxwb+KkIKlOQ mUeU7yVy5V590Ewu7brt1n35DqG5KOxKWjDmWfI58sd/be4wVAE6biCGexiV799IVrJv VQ6g== X-Received: by 10.180.19.138 with SMTP id f10mr25276188wie.56.1419199218707; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de. [129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gl11sm21326107wjc.40.2014.12.21.14.00.17 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:00:18 -0800 (PST) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <549742F0.1000603@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 23:00:16 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Scan-Signature: 7f2e5481aa97b3cbff3d653a1b2ddfbd Subject: Re: LF: Low pass filter 1 kW 136k 472 k what components to choose? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070703020605000201010502" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1559 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070703020605000201010502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Hans, T200-2. They may need a small fan on LF if you want to run e.g. WSPR-15 but for CW/QRSS it will work without one. 73, Stefan PS: I know it. Am 21.12.2014 16:38, schrieb Hans-Albrecht Haffa: > Dear OMs, > just a question strait forward: What componnets I should choose for a > low pass filter for 136 kHz and 472 kHz, two filters to be designed. > *136 kHz: Pin abt 1,5 kW* > *472 kHz: Pin abt 0,5 kW* > SWR: s = 1...2,5 when mated, in case of failure more > a five-pole low pass will probably be sufficient. > My Question: > What iron powder cores or air coiles will do it, known or proofed by > experiment? Diameter, marterial grade? > What capacitors? max. Voltage. High voltage caps from Wima (Ucd=4kV > or 8 kV) are not available at distributors, mica capacitors will > hardly fit in capacitiy value or in voltage, when in my collection. > The calculus of magnetic circuits is not a problem for me, but it is > easier to start with components that will fulfill the demands. > Waiting to Your kind anwer, > 55, Hans-Albrecht > DK 8 ND --------------070703020605000201010502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hans,

T200-2. They may need a small fan on LF if you want to run e.g. WSPR-15 but for CW/QRSS it will work without one.

73, Stefan

PS: I know it.

Am 21.12.2014 16:38, schrieb Hans-Albrecht Haffa:
Dear OMs,
just a question strait forward: What componnets I should choose for a low pass filter for 136 kHz and 472 kHz, two filters to be designed.
136 kHz:  Pin abt 1,5 kW
472 kHz:  Pin abt 0,5 kW
SWR: s = 1...2,5 when mated, in case of failure more
a five-pole low pass will probably be sufficient.
My Question:
What iron powder cores or air coiles will do it, known or proofed by experiment? Diameter, marterial grade?
What capacitors? max. Voltage.  High voltage caps from Wima (Ucd=4kV or 8 kV) are not available at distributors, mica capacitors will hardly fit in capacitiy value or in voltage, when in my collection.
The calculus of magnetic circuits is not a problem for me, but it is easier to start with components that will fulfill the demands.
Waiting to Your kind anwer,
55, Hans-Albrecht
DK 8 ND
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