Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1181; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_RCVD_HELO, RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id sBEAGXVn013971 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:16:33 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Y068q-0007pX-4d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:11:08 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Y068p-0007pO-Rl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:11:07 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y068o-0006Dj-1Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:11:06 +0000 Received: from sb.abelian.org (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0E63273A3; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:10:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sb.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C7228A039C; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <548D6237.5060400@abelian.org> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:11:03 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: Renato Romero References: <548B3BA6.5050907@gmail.com> <548BB9F7.80007@gmail.com> <548CA421.1080905@abelian.org> <025901d01728$41a8da20$c4fa8e60$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <025901d01728$41a8da20$c4fa8e60$@comcast.net> X-Scan-Signature: ad8e5dd63f7497fd9d71d15044db2e2b Subject: Re: LF: Re: 8957 Hz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1487 Last night Dex was testing at 9177 Hz. W4DEX at Todmorden and Bielefeld (DL4YHF) in 1 hour steps at 9177 Hz: Start Todmorden Bielefeld S/N Phase S/N Phase 22:00 10.4dB -39.3 5.8dB -62.2 22:30 11.7dB -56.9 3.3dB 23:00 8.6dB -85.3 2.6dB 23:30 5.7dB -85.6 4.1dB -74.3 00:00 8.9dB -74.6 2.6dB -96.9 00:30 11.9dB -86.8 -2.5dB 01:00 10.2dB -91.1 -6.0dB 01:30 7.9dB -84.1 4.0dB -14.1 02:00 6.0dB -51.5 5.2dB -38.4 02:30 5.5dB -59.5 1.2dB 03:00 4.9dB -92.4 2.1dB Really, there is nothing significant at all at Bielefeld, I tried a range of times bandwidths but couldn't pull anything out of the noise to measure. Average at Todmorden 22:00 to 02:00 0.20 fT (equiv 60nV) 22:00 to 04:00 0.16 fT (equiv 48nV) Max signal bearing 290, max S/N bearing 310 was 15.7dB in 46uHz. H-field spectrum http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/141214b.gif E-field spectrum http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/141214c.gif with grossly incorrect calibration thanks to a herd of cows. (This is the old E-field rx, the new one is sat in the corner of my office having disgraced itself in a recent near-field test). Combining E and H coherently gives 18.0db S/N. http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/141214d.gif Last night was perhaps overall the best so far from Dex, signal was 1.3dB stronger than the previous night at 8957Hz but the background noise was higher too. Looking at those plots and the stable phase you would think there is quite a bit in hand with which to push further into Europe. You could lose 6dB off the signal and still get a clear detection - that's a margin that gets you at least another 1000km overland. At Cumiana Italy, the online receiver run by Renato Romero IK1QFK, produced this interesting peak in the spectrum, http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/141214e.gif It is visible in wider bandwidths too and improves towards 04:00. Previous night at 8957Hz turned up nothing at all. The S/N is about what we would expect given the extra distance to Cumiana (7173km). I'll be having a closer look at this, expect a follow-up post in a couple of hours. At Forest VA: http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/141214a.png UT S/N Phase 21:40 12.2dB 10.8 22:00 13.7dB -2.8 22:20 15.3dB 14.3 22:40 18.0dB 19.2 23:00 16.1dB 14.0 23:20 16.1dB -2.3 23:40 17.0dB -10.8 00:00 18.3dB -3.6 00:20 18.5dB -1.7 00:40 18.6dB 7.4 01:00 18.9dB 3.5 01:20 17.3dB -7.0 01:40 18.7dB -12.5 02:00 20.6dB 2.0 02:20 18.3dB -1.5 02:40 17.9dB 5.9 03:00 18.9dB 2.7 03:20 18.6dB 5.8 03:40 20.2dB 9.8 With such a strong and stable signal you could reliably send over 150 bits per hour. -- Paul Nicholson --