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[129.206.22.206]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v7sm4030031lbp.44.2014.10.04.13.23.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:23:09 -0700 (PDT) From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> X-Google-Original-From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5430572B.8040006@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 22:23:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <89C38E3252E74733A48AAAD625D9DA9B@AGB> <542D2C65.6000306@gmail.com> <3D7D7F294CF84C3EB06A24264DA40C19@mePC> <542D44B4.1010203@gmail.com> <699781.97813.qm@web100007.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <3444DEB0E8A844F6967DC5C965B50172@mePC> <444643.70431.qm@web100017.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <58975.45113.qm@web100019.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <6E8F9FB9CC5D4978847A25B1E94141FF@mePC> <881715.56623.qm@web100018.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <4924182644EB40EBB50CF42BEC92320E@White> <816402.30737.qm@web100011.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <40E84CFC06B543228006188F67DFBA14@White> <289583.70004.qm@web100009.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> <612ED2C285B746D297FCD5D3AFBBA6AA@White> <963712.71218.qm@web100002.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <963712.71218.qm@web100002.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp> X-Scan-Signature: cb8f4d9b6be68419653ce9b3f17d575f Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080205070408080508000809" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 640 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080205070408080508000809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Yas, Markus, Spiros. Not a good prophet, just some observations over the years. Apart from that, checking your grabber showing HGA and DCF show the phonomenon all the time. However, today is a very good day regarding LF DX to the far east, SNR of DCF is very good, 30 dB!!! But sill no sign of me on your or on Kunis grabber. But the sunrise isn't there yet :-) Spiros, well done! A real LF carreer. There are not many, you know... 73, Stefan Am 04.10.2014 22:03, schrieb Knight Ao: > Hi Markus, Spiros, LF Group, > > Yep, Stefan must be a good prophet, hi. From JA, we can use HGA as a > pilot to South Europe. I will ask Kumi to tx soon. (Don't know if > his tx ant is ready or not, but he will definitely get on the air > soon). In the meantime, Spiros's QRSS is a little bit hard to read. > Spiros, could it be possible to change dot/dash ratio from 1:3 to 1:2, > so there will be more clear readability as far as the dots are concerned? > > OK, you guys it's about time for me to go to bed. > > Have a nice weekend! > > > Yas > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Markus Vester > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 04:47 > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Hi Yas, > WPF is visible here, but not very conspicuous due to the purple > colour associated to northeast direction. > Well done, Spiros and Kuni! This detection is also verifying a > remarkable prediction from Stefan: > DK7FC wrote on October 02: > > Hi Spiros, ... > > PS: The path is much more promising for you than for me because > it is farer away from the noth pole and all that geomagnetic stuff... > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:35 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Hi Markus, > > Thanks! Yeah, I see now, it gotta be SV8CS. Wonder why WPF won't > show up on your grabber.... He must be using a beam ant? hi > > 73 > > Yas > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Markus Vester > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 04:27 > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Hi Yas, LF group, > no, to mee it looks like it is SV8CS. The "V" looks very clear > and matches the timing for Spiros' transmission. He seems to > be appearing now on hthe new qrg 0.5 Hz up as well. > BTW The only Loran line which fits in would be 136170.9287 Hz > from a Chinese chain (GRI 7430). > In Kuni's capture we can see a strong signal from (UA4)WPF > just below 136173, and some fragments from DK7FC around 136172. > Yas, thank you for that grabber relay, works very fine! > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:12 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Hi Markus, > > Do you think the one slightly above the 136170.92 Loran line > shown on JA7NI grabber is SQ7XQ, right? For the time being, > SV8CS is not showing up around 136170.5 on Kuni's grabber, yet. > > Yas > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Markus Vester > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 03:53 > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Looks like SQ7XQ (dfcw, calling DK7FC) and SV8CS (qrss) > are both transmitting on 136171.0 Hz at the same time. > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:44 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Hi Spriros, > > Seems there is your sigs showing up on JA7NI grabber now， > but there is a strong Loran line at 136170.92Hz．Please > move up to 136171.2 or .3 so we can read you clearly. > > Yas > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios > > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 03:09 > *Subject:* LF: JA7NI - grabber > > Thank YAS. > Yes, now works very well. > I will chang now from OP-32 to QRSS-90. > TNX again. > 73, Spiros/SV8CS > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 5:46 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > Hi Spiros and all, > > I just set up a temporal gateway for JA7NI's grabber at: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47335788/ja7ni/ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo.jpg > > Hope you guys can read his grabber capture now. > > Yas > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 01:26 > *Subject:* LF: JA7NI - grabber > Hi YAS. > here is what I see. > > > 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > nginx/1.2.9 > > 73, Spiros/SV8CS > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:11 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber > Hi Spiros, > > I can open up his page with that link. Does > anyone else have any access problem out there in EU? > > Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Date:* 2014/10/5, Sun 00:45 > *Subject:* LF: JA7NI - grabber > Hello YAS > JA7NI’s web don’t work > http://ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo > Please when will be OK let me know > 73, Spiros/SV8CS > *From:* Knight Ao > *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:26 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Subject:* Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night > Hi all, > > Further to my earlier email, JA7NI Kuni has > started his grabber on. > http://ja7ni.pv.land.to/argo > He told me he would try to turn it on every > night during this month. > GL! > Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Knight Ao > *To:* "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" > > *Date:* 2014/10/3, Fri 19:35 > *Subject:* Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night > Hi Spiros and Stefan, > > I just contacted JA7NI, and he told me he > had been QRT on 2200m until now, and will > probably get back his grabber on by this > weekend if his maintenance goes well. Dst > is going up and condx of this weekend > should be good. > > GL! > > Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com> > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Cc:* K.Togashi > *Date:* 2014/10/2, Thu 21:27 > *Subject:* Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night > Hi Spiros, > > I see your goals become farer :-) > Well, JA7NI mostly runs the grabber by > request. Yas/JA8SCD is here on the > reflector and corresponds to JA7NI. > But you can contact him personally of > course. I put him into CC here. > However i would not assume that he > runs OPDS32. But QRSS or DFCW-180 is > the best mode (anyway!) for you both. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: The path is much more promising > for you than for me because it is > farer away from the noth pole and all > that geomagnetic stuff. Often seen > stong SNR from HGA22 while DCF39 was > down in the noise... > > > Am 02.10.2014 14:03, schrieb > SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios: >> Hello Stefan. >> Thank you. >> Seems the propagation going better!! >> I have a question: >> Do you know if the JA7NI grabber is ON? >> His web page don’t work. >> 73, Spiros/SV8CS >> *From:* DK7FC >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 02, 2014 >> 10:43 AM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> ; Vasily Savchenko >> >> *Subject:* Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night >> Hello Spiros, Vasily, >> >> Very nice! My compliments. >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 02.10.2014 06:53, schrieb >> SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios: >>> Hi to alll. >>> Very nice propagation this evening. >>> *UA0SNV* >>> 2014-10-01 20:06:21 SV8CS *6081km* >>> 137520.148Hz 14mHz -47.3dBOp 66% >>> 18.1dB >>> 2014-10-01 18:39:53 SV8CS *6081km* >>> 137520.145Hz 9mHz -44.3dBOp 94% >>> 19.6dB >>> also: >>> *DF6NM* >>> 2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS *1506km >>> *137519.976Hz 12mHz -29.8dBOp 100% >>> 21.9dB >>> *DK7FC* >>> 2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS *1617km* >>> 137519.974Hz 11mHz -27.4dBOp 87% 22.0dB >>> *EW6BN* >>> 2014-10-01 20:06:20 SV8CS *2058km* >>> 137519.985Hz 12mHz -37.8dBOp 100% 20.2dB >>> TNX, 73 >>> Spiros/SV8CS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------080205070408080508000809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Yas, Markus, Spiros.

Not a good prophet, just some observations over the years. Apart from that, checking your grabber showing HGA and DCF show the phonomenon all the time. However, today is a very good day regarding LF DX to the far east, SNR of DCF is very good, 30 dB!!! But sill no sign of me on your or on Kunis grabber. But the sunrise isn't there yet :-)

Spiros, well done! A real LF carreer. There are not many, you know...

73, Stefan

Am 04.10.2014 22:03, schrieb Knight Ao:
Hi Markus, Spiros, LF Group,

Yep, Stefan must be a good prophet, hi.  From JA, we can use HGA as a pilot to South Europe.  I will ask Kumi to tx soon.  (Don't know if his tx ant is ready or not, but he will definitely get on the air soon).  In the meantime, Spiros's QRSS is a little bit hard to read.  Spiros, could it be possible to change dot/dash ratio from 1:3 to 1:2, so there will be more clear readability as far as the dots are concerned?

OK, you guys it's about time for me to go to bed. 

Have a nice weekend!


Yas

----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 04:47
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Yas,
 
WPF is visible here, but not very conspicuous due to the purple colour associated to northeast direction.
 
 
Well done, Spiros and Kuni! This detection is also verifying a remarkable prediction from Stefan:
 
DK7FC wrote on October 02:
> Hi Spiros, ...
> PS: The path is much more promising for you than for me because it is farer away from the noth pole and all that geomagnetic stuff...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Markus,

Thanks!  Yeah, I see now, it gotta be SV8CS.  Wonder why WPF won't show up on your grabber.... He must be using a beam ant? hi

73

Yas

----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 04:27
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Yas, LF group,
 
no, to mee it looks like it is SV8CS. The "V" looks very clear and matches the timing for Spiros' transmission. He seems to be appearing now on hthe new qrg 0.5 Hz up as well.
 
BTW The only Loran line which fits in would be 136170.9287 Hz from a Chinese chain (GRI 7430). 
 
In Kuni's capture we can see a strong signal from (UA4)WPF just below 136173, and some fragments from DK7FC around 136172. 
 
Yas, thank you for that grabber relay, works very fine!
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Markus,

Do you think the one slightly above the 136170.92 Loran line shown on JA7NI grabber is SQ7XQ, right?  For the time being, SV8CS is not showing up around 136170.5 on Kuni's grabber, yet.

Yas

----- Original Message -----
From: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 03:53
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Looks like SQ7XQ (dfcw, calling DK7FC) and SV8CS (qrss) are both transmitting on 136171.0 Hz at the same time.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Hi Spriros,

Seems there is your sigs showing up on JA7NI grabber now， but there is a strong Loran line at 136170.92Hz．Please move up to 136171.2 or .3 so we can read you clearly.

Yas

----- Original Message -----
From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 03:09
Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber

Thank YAS.
Yes, now works very well.
I will chang now from OP-32 to QRSS-90.
TNX again.
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi Spiros and all,

I just set up a temporal gateway for JA7NI's grabber at:

Hope you guys can read his grabber capture now.

Yas

----- Original Message -----
From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 01:26
Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi YAS.
here is what I see.

503 Service Temporarily Unavailable

nginx/1.2.9
 
 
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
 
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hi Spiros,

I can open up his page with that link.  Does anyone else have any access problem out there in EU?

Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original Message -----
From: SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios <zante@otenet.gr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: 2014/10/5, Sun 00:45
Subject: LF: JA7NI - grabber
 
Hello YAS
JA7NI’s web don’t work
 
Please when will be OK let me know
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
 
 
 
From: Knight Ao
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hi all,

Further to my earlier email, JA7NI Kuni has started his grabber on.
He told me he would try to turn it on every night during this month.
 
GL!
 
Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original Message -----
From: Knight Ao <ja10xx@yahoo.co.jp>
To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Date: 2014/10/3, Fri 19:35
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hi Spiros and Stefan,

I just contacted JA7NI, and he told me he had been QRT on 2200m until now, and will probably get back his grabber on by this weekend if his maintenance goes well. Dst is going up and condx of this weekend should be good.

GL!

Yas - JA8SCD Tokyo

----- Original Message -----
From: DK7FC <73dk7fc@googlemail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: K.Togashi <ja7ni@plum.plala.or.jp>
Date: 2014/10/2, Thu 21:27
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hi Spiros,

I see your goals become farer :-)
Well, JA7NI mostly runs the grabber by request. Yas/JA8SCD is here on the reflector and corresponds to JA7NI. But you can contact him personally of course. I put him into CC here. However i would not assume that he runs OPDS32. But QRSS or DFCW-180 is the best mode (anyway!) for you both.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: The path is much more promising for you than for me because it is farer away from the noth pole and all that geomagnetic stuff. Often seen stong SNR from HGA22 while DCF39 was down in the noise...


Am 02.10.2014 14:03, schrieb SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios:
Hello Stefan.
Thank you.
Seems the propagation going better!!
I have a question:
Do you know if the JA7NI grabber is ON?
His web page don’t work.
73, Spiros/SV8CS
 
 
 
 
From: DK7FC
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: LF: OP32 sv8cs last night
 
Hello Spiros, Vasily,

Very nice! My compliments.

73, Stefan

Am 02.10.2014 06:53, schrieb SV8CS-Spiros Chimarios:
Hi to alll.
Very nice propagation this evening.
UA0SNV
2014-10-01 20:06:21 SV8CS   6081km 137520.148Hz  14mHz -47.3dBOp  66% 18.1dB
2014-10-01 18:39:53 SV8CS   6081km 137520.145Hz   9mHz -44.3dBOp  94% 19.6dB
also:
DF6NM
2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1506km 137519.976Hz 12mHz -29.8dBOp 100% 21.9dB
DK7FC
2014-10-01 20:06:19 SV8CS 1617km 137519.974Hz 11mHz -27.4dBOp 87% 22.0dB
EW6BN
2014-10-01 20:06:20 SV8CS 2058km 137519.985Hz 12mHz -37.8dBOp 100% 20.2dB
TNX, 73
Spiros/SV8CS
















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