Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id s93MoOA9030707 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2014 00:50:26 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1XaBZj-00082o-8K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:43:47 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1XaBZi-00082f-UQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:43:46 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XaBZP-0004Nm-Ak for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:43:45 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.141] (helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.82 #2) id 1XaBZO-0004Cy-0w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 00:43:26 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:53710 helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.82 #2) id 1XaBZN-000281-T4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 00:43:26 +0200 Received: from mx15.freenet.de ([195.4.92.25]:47136) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.82 #2) id 1XaBX7-0001Eo-9z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 00:41:05 +0200 Received: from blfd-4db01938.pool.mediaways.net ([77.176.25.56]:1100 helo=[192.168.178.21]) by mx15.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.82 #2) id 1XaBX6-0005hW-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2014 00:41:05 +0200 Message-ID: <542F25FE.7030408@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 00:41:02 +0200 From: wolf_dl4yhf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <54281B0D.4040202@gmail.com> <1FEF5D3CDFAF4F5D9A31B0134D133FCF@White> <54296984.7080607@gmail.com> <542EFB24.5010300@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <542F038A.1000804@freenet.de> <542F0842.7030304@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <542F0842.7030304@gmail.com> X-Originated-At: 77.176.25.56!1100 X-Scan-Signature: 0317e2ac8ed27149e57223a21580246d Subject: Re: LF: ZEVS RX ant question, now success Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090001080103010003090909" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 599 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090001080103010003090909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan and all, you wrote: > > Yes, a good idea. I will try to catch it :-) But how do i know that it > is the US mains instead of a 60 Hz monitor? Is the 60 Hz from the > mains more stable? I guess the opposite: Similar to our Eu mains frequency, the US 60 Hz signal "wanders around" very slowly, as the load changes, but in the long run they also keep the frequency stable, nation-wide. Not sure about the maximum excursion from the nominal frequency (I lost the notes and screenshots years ago when a harddisk died) and how many mHz per minute the frequency may drift. But you can see the weak 60 Hz trace in Renato Romero's ZEVS spectrogram at http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm 73, Wolf . --------------090001080103010003090909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Stefan and all,


you wrote:

Yes, a good idea. I will try to catch it :-) But how do i know that it is the US mains instead of a 60 Hz monitor? Is the 60 Hz from the mains more stable?
I guess the opposite: Similar to our Eu mains frequency, the US 60 Hz signal "wanders around" very slowly, as the load changes, but in the long run they also keep the frequency stable, nation-wide. Not sure about the maximum excursion from the nominal frequency (I lost the notes and screenshots years ago when a harddisk died) and how many mHz per minute the frequency may drift. But you can see the weak 60 Hz trace in Renato Romero's ZEVS spectrogram at

http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm

73,
  Wolf .

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