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From: "James Moritz" <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:45:29 -0000
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Dear Mal, LF Group,

You wrote:
> I copied XGJ solid last nite on his first call but unfortunately he had 
> QRM
> problems and I did a QSY and he missed my request to STOP so that I could
> give him a OOO report and hopefully receive one back.

...But an LF QSO is where information is exchanged between stations using LF 
radio waves - not via internet discussions, HF talk-back, semaphore, etc. So 
any requests need to be made using your LF QRSS signal. Last night the only 
information you sent was "KEV" a number of times. Also, you started your 
transmission while XGJ was still transmitting. If Warren was copying you, he 
could not have known whether you were calling him to give a report, or just 
calling again because you had not copied him previously. So while the 
suggested QSO format may seem long-winded, it has a good purpose.

> I have made numerous QSO'S over the years on QRS mode and know exactly how
> to proceed and do agree with you, but I hope others take notice.
> I have noticed this year that QRS QSO'S are getting far too long winded by
> some sending Name and Locator for example.
> also prolonged sending of callsign when an ID is already established.
> Some have got so used to Beacon mode that they have forgotton how to 
> engage
> in a QSO.
> QSO mode needs procedural Skill whereas the beacon operator just plugs 
> away
> hoping that he might be heard/seen and generates lots of QRM into the
> bargin.

I'm sure people who remember the early days of transatlantic QRSS find all 
this a bit surreal...  exactly when did "Lazy man's CW" miraculously become 
"QSO Mode"? ;-)

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU