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 Content preview:  Hello Mike, Am 26.06.2014 13:43, schrieb Mike Dennison: >
   Personally, I have been disappointed by the amount of DX received > during
    darkness hours on 472kHz so far. It seems commonplace > to receive stations
    out to Scandinavia and Italy, but little beyond. > Yes, I have seen some
   transatlantic DX but nothing to match > the stories of worldwide openings
   reported by retired marine 500kHz > operators, or indeed what is availalable
    routinely on 160m. Is this > just lack of activity? > [...] 
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Hello Mike,

Am 26.06.2014 13:43, schrieb Mike Dennison:
> Personally, I have been disappointed by the amount of DX received
>   during darkness hours on 472kHz so far. It seems commonplace
>   to receive stations out to Scandinavia and Italy, but little beyond.
>   Yes, I have seen some transatlantic DX but nothing to match
> the stories of worldwide openings reported by retired marine 500kHz
> operators, or indeed what is availalable routinely on 160m. Is this
> just lack of activity?
>    

It is lack of RF power for many stations!

Furthermore there is a big difference between 2200m and 630m regarding 
propagation above sea water and above land. There have been just a few 
WSPR decodes on 630m by russian RX stations while they are getting very 
good results on 2200m. That explaines the advantage of living near the 
sea. In other words, it should be relatively "easy" to get some TA 
detections by stations living near the sea, however it is much harder to 
get the same results when living a few 100 km distant from the sea...

73, Stefan