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Tnx Albert.
Yes, the signals were fine, congrats. I listened to the file aftrr my 
first mail.
Yes, in terms of erp we're all QRP stns. I just wanted to confirm for me 
that QRO power was used here, since it appears that some are actually 
thinking it can be done with low TX power...

73 from Berlin, Stefan


Am 07.05.2014 12:51, schrieb Albert:
> Stefan,
>
> If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see 
> 2000W tx power. I used abt 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the 
> antenna. If you listen to the signal of Bob you will realize that only 
> RRRRR etc was not necessary.
> You are right abt using QRP on these bands,  a QRO tx is very useful 
> to get out of the garden. If you consider the erp. we are actually 
> working QRP on these low bands.
>
> 73, Albert
>
>
>
>
>
> DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power, 
>> rather 5W or rather 500W?
>> And what about Bob, 5W or 500W?
>> Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary".
>> Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73 
>> didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-)
>>
>> 73, Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert:
>>> All fyi,
>>>
>>> I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010,  04:00 
>>> UTC at that time the DX record on CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) 
>>> a copy of the QSL card and an audio file of the first part of the 
>>> QSO including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was 
>>> abt, 5 W erp.
>>>
>>> http://www.pa0a.com/500-khz/
>>>
>>> (see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.)  for the audio file click left on 
>>> QSO WE2XGR-6 v3
>>>
>>> 73, Albert PA0A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57:
>>>> Andy,
>>>>
>>>>    Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call WE2XGR/6 
>>>> worked Finbar EI0CF on CW and also ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar ran CW).
>>>>     Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his reception of 
>>>> Bob's ssb signal.
>>>> I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't recall 
>>>> all the details.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Tnx Albert. <br>
Yes, the signals were fine, congrats. I listened to the file aftrr my
first mail.<br>
Yes, in terms of erp we're all QRP stns. I just wanted to confirm for
me that QRO power was used here, since it appears that some are
actually thinking it can be done with low TX power...<br>
<br>
73 from Berlin, Stefan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 07.05.2014 12:51, schrieb Albert:
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  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Stefan,<br>
  <br>
If you take a better look at Bob's QSL card (click to enlarge) you see
2000W tx power. I used abt 400W to get the 5 W erp radiated by the
antenna. If you listen to the signal of Bob you will realize that only
RRRRR etc was not necessary.<br>
You are right abt using QRP on these bands,  a QRO tx is very useful to
get out of the garden. If you consider the erp. we are actually working
QRP on these low bands.<br>
  <br>
73, Albert<br>
  <br>
      <br>
  <br>
  <br>
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DK7FC schreef op 7-5-2014 12:19:<br>
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Hi,<br>
    <br>
Aaaaaah so that was QRO, not QRP, right? Or what was the TX power,
rather 5W or rather 500W?<br>
And what about Bob, 5W or 500W?<br>
Just to make things clear regarding "QRO is not necessary".<br>
Was it a longer QSO with some content or just "RRRRR 73 73 73
didididadidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :-)<br>
    <br>
73, Stefan<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
Am 06.05.2014 22:28, schrieb Albert:
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">All fyi,<br>
      <br>
I had a CW QSO on 502 kHz with Bob WE2XGR/6 on Feb 9 2010,  04:00 UTC
at that time the DX record on CW. On my website (in plane Dutch) a copy
of the QSL card and an audio file of the first part of the QSO
including a restart of my keyer. My output during the QSO was abt, 5 W
erp.<br>
      <br>
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(see: EERSTE QSO NEDERLAND etc.)  for the audio file click left on <font
 color="#3333ff">QSO WE2XGR-6 v3</font><br>
      <br>
73, Albert PA0A<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
Warren Ziegler schreef op 6-5-2014 16:57:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">Andy,
        <div><br>
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        <div>   Some years ago Bob W2ZM using the experimental call
WE2XGR/6 worked Finbar EI0CF on CW and also ssb (Bob ran ssb, Finbar
ran CW).  </div>
        <div>    Somewhere I have a .wav file from Finbar with his
reception of Bob's ssb signal.</div>
        <div>I know that there have been other T/A contacts but I don't
recall all the details.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>73 Warren K2ORS<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        </div>
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