Delivered-To: daveyxm@virginmedia.com Received: by 10.50.237.98 with SMTP id vb2csp163981igc; Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:17:50 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.187.16 with SMTP id fo16mr10168637wic.26.1391465869816; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:17:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com. [195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id t1si10611111wjx.67.2014.02.03.14.17.49 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 14:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1WARIX-0006hg-VG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:43:21 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1WARIX-0006hX-DX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:43:21 +0000 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.226]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1WARIU-0003pS-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 21:43:20 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQCACQN8FLL1jTl/2dsb2JhbAANTL8XhDuDWEApFBYYAwIBAgFYCAEBszuiKxePJoQiBJ8ajnI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,774,1384272000"; d="scan'208";a="181332760" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.0.2]) ([203.214.52.229]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 04 Feb 2014 05:43:12 +0800 Message-ID: <52F00D70.7080409@netspace.net.au> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:43:12 +1100 From: Richard Rogers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: G'day, When Robert, AX2TAR, was experimenting here on 178KHz, I built a 100W class D transmitter for him to try. He thought the five element low pass filter on the output was redundant as the antenna loading coil should provide sufficient selectivity. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [203.59.1.226 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: e09cca6d8e44a91eadbdfb3e1b8aec09 Subject: LF: Harmonics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false G'day, When Robert, AX2TAR, was experimenting here on 178KHz, I built a 100W class D transmitter for him to try. He thought the five element low pass filter on the output was redundant as the antenna loading coil should provide sufficient selectivity. So he tried it one night without the filter, feeding the square waves via his LF loading coil to the antenna. I could barely hear his 3rd and 5th harmonics, but the 17th, 19th, 21st and 23rd harmonics were loud and clear. The strongest was about S8. Robert lived about 15KM away from me. I think this was because his antenna wire was about a halfwave long near these frequencies and thus had a high input impedance which was efficiently coupled to the transmitter by the stray capacitance across the LF loading coil. Perhaps some of the current VVLF experimenters would like to try listening for higher harmonics than the third. -- 73, Ric VK7RO