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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Andy, Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use here at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impressive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wire length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial system fully intact) I thought that a resistive component of approx 26 Ohm was "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy. 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070601020203040609040204" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070601020203040609040204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Andy, Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use here at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impressive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wire length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial system fully intact) I thought that a resistive component of approx 26 Ohm was "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy. Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' type, or vertical wire with a lot of topload) are measuring. Have a nice weekend, Wolf DL4YHF . Am 31.01.2014 10:58, schrieb André Guyé: > Merci Wolf. > A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, *using a 3 Watts > output TX*. HI. I like very much QRP. > The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters, > and the horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is > ( 18 - 560 j ). It needs a 190 µH serial coil to resonate. > Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI. > *From:* wolf_dl4yhf > *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m > Merci Andy, > SNR during your CQ call was -16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later > dropped to -25 during the QSO. > Would have been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-) > > Now IZ7SLZ and I5EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here. > > > 73, > Wolf DL4YHF > JO42FD > > > Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb André Guyé: >> F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9. >> 73 de Andy >> *From:* F4DTL@aol.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:52 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* LF: CQ CQ F4DTL JT9 on 630m >> Rendez vous at 2100 GMT this evening >> *F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP* >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel >> malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! >> est active. >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel > malveillant parce que la protection Antivirus avast! > est active. > > --------------070601020203040609040204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello Andy,

Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use here at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impressive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wire length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial system fully intact) I thought that a resistive component of approx 26 Ohm was "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy.

Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' type, or vertical wire with a lot of topload) are measuring.


Have a nice weekend,
  Wolf DL4YHF .




Am 31.01.2014 10:58, schrieb André Guyé:
Merci Wolf.
 
A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, using a 3 Watts output TX. HI. I like very much QRP.
 
The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters, and the horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is ( 18 - 560 j ). It needs a 190 µH serial coil to resonate.
 
Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI.
 
 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m
 
Merci Andy,
SNR during your CQ call was -16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later dropped to -25 during the QSO.
Would have been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-)

Now IZ7SLZ and I5EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here.


73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF
  JO42FD


Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb André Guyé:
F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9.
 
73 de Andy
 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: LF: CQ CQ F4DTL JT9 on 630m
 
Rendez vous at 2100 GMT this evening
 
F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP


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