Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t21E8tFQ003536 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2015 15:08:55 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1YS4Uv-0002Lf-HO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:05:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1YS4Uu-0002LW-W9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:05:32 +0000 Received: from nm40-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.136.217.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YS4Us-0001Mp-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:05:31 +0000 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=yahoo.co.uk Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s2048; t=1425218727; bh=XsnJFTmuOgwUIOBiR5aM8NXwOC3wjrkaexoCY09UDPk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=JL4m3ZgaOFQ8nfT2v5ZVOiVhKLFbVUgt/SOnlunvQrCvpH8jFklcx2e/Od4WCgvsp5tOrNnK3q7cT3/xMUmu99LFVL3WpKGD9eCI6Bmw5E8Npyx5T1jLfJTiaEu4oPFr4XcOP6RsWKg30xRC1e4LzUpdzwNq/63guLa8kSKPvNCwtHyatJp+xTsZ9ygbB3MCmfD43N6U6FZQiaCp54RyBzaNfNyHO3SvY43gh+KT0FOMDFPiY88og6H07HJuuRHiCdcLTg98SY4X+IIq+WjVMguwOfKqStnxkM4ragPYZ3sKzx4x+HZUvnkrqF1pWHl623o86OWQXRtsRrnGhKyaIA== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2015 14:05:27 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.63] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2015 14:02:31 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.80] by tm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2015 14:02:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Mar 2015 14:02:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 308921.89437.bm@omp1017.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: dzWhge0VRDserzJtFlFg7OIxuCi5WZUzgn9vRjOH Received: by 217.12.9.13; Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:02:29 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 14:02:29 +0000 (UTC) From: M0FMT To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Message-ID: <52384915.872893.1425218549119.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <54F2FC17.6050000@freenet.de> References: <54F2FC17.6050000@freenet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: ef570e47a9cf5159a8093427727c2c22 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Fw: Ikea launches furniture that wirelessly charges smartphones and tablets Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_872892_2133389369.1425218549115" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2493 ------=_Part_872892_2133389369.1425218549115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Wolf and group Are but we do have straight Bananas now, just be gratetful for that. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX Sent via my own personal Too-Way (two way) Earth Station to and from=C2=A0t= he Eutelsat Ka-band satellite=C2=A0 http://www.tooway.co.uk/ =C2=A0at appro= ximately=C2=A0172 degrees Azimuth in the Clarke belt owing to BTs 19th cent= ury cable technology=C2=A0inability to provide a good enough 21st century b= roadband service. I agree for this message to be passed on to BT Plc at 81 = Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ=C2=A0 via the snoops at GCHQ Cheltenham, th= anks for=C2=A0your cooperation it is appreciated. From: wolf_dl4yhf To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk; RSGB LF Group at blacksheep =20 Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2015, 11:46 Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Fw: Ikea launches furniture that wireless= ly charges smartphones and tablets =20 Indeed... holy s**t. =20 > The frequency used for Qi chargers is located between about 110 and 205 = kHz=20 > for the low power Qi chargers up to 5 watts and 80-300 kHz for the mediu= m power > Qi chargers. =20 > Placement anywhere: =C2=A0 The second form of Qi charger placement=20 > does not require the user to accurately place the mobile device on a par= ticular area=20 > of the charging surface. Instead a wider area is usable.=20 > This can be achieved by using more than one transmitter coil.=20 =20 > Medium power: =C2=A0 Chargers in the medium power category can deliver p= ower up to 120 watts.=20 =20 "Placement anywhere" + "Medium power". Heavens no. One can only hope that = the "electrosmog concerned" folks jump on the train and prevent widespread = use of that option, at least in mass-marketed stuff like the Ikea furniture= . Wonder if / how such equipment passes the CE / EMC tests. Possibly with th= e wireless charger function disabled. =20 Cheers, =C2=A0 Wolf . =20 =20 Am 01.03.2015 11:52, schrieb 'Tracey Gardner' .. =20 Yet more potential interference http://www.dezeen.com/2015/03/01/ikea-furniture-products-wirelessly-charge= -mobile-devices/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/11440557/Ikea-l= aunches-wireless-charging-furniture-range.html 73s Tracey G5VU =20 =20 =20 ------=_Part_872892_2133389369.1425218549115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Are but we do ha= ve straight Bananas now, just be gratetful for that.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX





Sent via my own personal Too-Way = (two way) Earth Station to and from the Eutelsat Ka-band satellite&nbs= p; http://www.tooway.co.uk/  at approximately 172 degrees Azimuth= in the Clarke belt owing to BTs 19th century cable technology inabili= ty to provide a good enough 21st century broadband service. I agree for thi= s message to be passed on to BT Plc at 81 Newgate Street, London EC1A 7AJ&n= bsp; via the snoops at GCHQ Cheltenham, thanks for your cooperation it= is appreciated.

From: wolf_dl4yh= f <dl4yhf@freenet.de>
To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk; RSGB LF Group at blacksheep <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2015, 11:46
Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Fw: Ikea launches = furniture that wirelessly charges smartphones and tablets

=20 =20 =20
Indeed... holy s**t.

> The frequency used for Qi chargers is located between about 110 and 205 kHz
> for the low power Qi chargers up to 5 watts and 80-300 kHz for the medium power
> Qi chargers.

> Placement anywhere:   The second form of Qi charger placement
> does not require the user to accurately place the mobile device on a particular area
> of the charging surface. Instead a wider area is usable.
> This can be achieved by using more than one transmitter coil.

> Medium power:   Chargers in the medium power categor= y can deliver power up to 120 watts.

"Placement anywhere" + "Medium power". Heavens no. One can only hope that the "electrosmog concerned" folks jump on the train and prevent widespread use of that option, at least in mass-marketed stuff like the Ikea furniture.
Wonder if / how such equipment passes the CE / EMC tests. Possibly with the wireless charger function disabled.

Cheers,
  Wolf .


Am 01.03.2015 11:52, schrieb 'Tracey Gardner' ..
 Yet more potential interference

 http://www.dezeen.com/2015/03/01/ikea-fur=
niture-products-wirelessly-charge-mobile-devices/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/114405=
57/Ikea-launches-wireless-charging-furniture-range.html 73s Tracey G5VU



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