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Content preview: Hi Roelof and Clemens, besides the AM time signal DCF 77 has an additional phase modulation to better define the start of the seconds which can be heard as a hissing noise; see e.g. Wikipedia. 73, Tom, DK1IS [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [194.25.41.13 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: Re: LF: RE: DCF-77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2653 Hi Roelof and Clemens, besides the AM time signal DCF 77 has an additional phase modulation to=20 better define the start of the seconds which can be heard as a hissing=20 noise; see e.g. Wikipedia. 73, Tom, DK1IS Am 06.08.2013 18:32, schrieb Clemens Paul: > Hi Roelof, > > I just did a quick check on the remote Perseus at DL0AO > while resting on a couch in my shack. > This saved myself from having to get up from the couch at 36=B0C > for switching on my own Perseus. :-) > I see two 50Hz (+/-) spurs about 23dB down. > Noise sidebands are asymmetric "here". > On the lower side ca. 290Hz,on the upper side ca. 160Hz wide judging fr= om > waterfall. > > HTH > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > > =20 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Bakker >> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:43 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: LF: DCF-77 >> >> Hello all, >> >> I just noticed that DCF-77 on 77.5 kHz has what looks like 500 Hz wide >> noise sidebands. >> Am I the only one who sees this, or is this done on purpose e.g. some >> datamode transmission. >> >> 73, >> Roelof, pa0rdt >> >> >> >> ----- >> E-Mail ist virenfrei. >> Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de >> Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virendatenbank: 3209/6555 - >> Ausgabedatum: 06.08.2013 >> > > > . >