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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I don't know if my previous posts arrived but I still prefer to think that a "small" antenna is one plate of a capacitor and the rest of the universe is the other. This then enables the spacecraft antenna to work. The universe is not a great big empty space! 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This then enables the spacecraft antenna to work. The universe is not a great big empty space! 73 de Pat On 10/07/13 08:58, edgar wrote: > > I sent this message two days ago and I did not see it arrive. > > Although the subject is now out of context, I would like some comment > on my question. > > Regards, Edgar > Moonah, Tasmania. > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: LF: VK1OD's analysis of the MiniWhip antenna > Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 00:06:50 +1000 > From: edgar > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Hi Pieter-Tjerk, > > If that is the case, and all the parts are at the same potential, how > does a space craft, radio controlled model aeroplane > > get their signals? > > Surely every conductor in the unit will have a difference in potential > due to being in a electromagnetic field. > > Even in the legs of the FET. Although the potential will be extremely small. > > Surely it is only necessary to have a change of the Vgs voltage of the FET. > > So the geometry of the antenna has to be made to allow this to occur. > > Regards, Edgar > Moonah, Tasmania. > > > > -- 73 de pat g4gvw es gd dx qth nr Felixstowe East Coast UK --------------030304030902080900050005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I don't know if my previous posts arrived but I still prefer to think that a "small" antenna is one plate of a capacitor and the rest of the universe is the other. This then enables the spacecraft antenna to work. The universe is not a great big empty space!

73 de Pat



On 10/07/13 08:58, edgar wrote:

I sent this message two days ago and I did not see it arrive.

Although the subject is now out of context, I would like some comment on my question.

Regards, Edgar
Moonah, Tasmania.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: LF: VK1OD's analysis of the MiniWhip antenna
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 00:06:50 +1000
From: edgar <edgarjtwining@virginbroadband.com.au>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


Hi Pieter-Tjerk,

If that is the case, and all the parts are at the same potential, how 
does a space craft, radio controlled model aeroplane

get their signals?

Surely every conductor in the unit will have a difference in potential 
due to being in a electromagnetic field.

Even in the legs of the FET. Although the potential will be extremely small.

Surely it is only necessary to have a change of the Vgs voltage of the FET.

So the geometry of the antenna has to be made to allow this to occur.

Regards, Edgar
Moonah, Tasmania.






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73 de pat g4gvw
es gd dx
qth nr Felixstowe
East Coast UK
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