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Ahh! Sorry Pete
This is probably me still learning how to drive Thunderbird through AOL.
The "learning-curve" is still in a strange part of the hysterisis. When=20
I have achieved the correct "bell" shape I'll be happier than the rest=20
of you for I shall have successfully come out on the other side :>))
I promise to Evolve from Evolution!
73

On 11/04/13 19:17, M0FMT wrote:
> Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it keeps sending the=20
> same thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the price of one.
>  73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>
>     *From:* pat <g4gvw@aol.com>
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     *Cc:* M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, 11 April 2013, 18:53
>     *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 K=
Hz
>
>     Well, you might have been happy, Pete. I discovered that the
>     family cat's whiskers wouldn't work with a bit of coke and we had
>     to go back to a pair of baked bean cans and string!
>
>
>
>
>     On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote:
>>     And we all live in a hole in the road but we were happy!!.....:0)
>>
>>     73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>>
>>         *From:* pat mailto:g4gvw@aol.com
>>         *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>         <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>         *Cc:* M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06
>>         *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25
>>         236.75 KHz
>>
>>         And Wireless Set No.17 for =A32:19:6 (2Volt accumulator and HT
>>         Battery 10/- extra)
>>
>>         And we're all getting older!
>>
>>         73
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 11/04/13 12:18, M0FMT wrote:
>>>         Hi Graham
>>>         How young you are my introduction to Tottenham Court Road
>>>         (Proops?) , Lisles Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross  and
>>>         The Edgeware Road  about 1956. Aaaaah those were the days.
>>>         learnt a lot about Radio, Life, the Universe and everything
>>>         there...... hee!
>>>         Got my R107 from Lisle Street with money save from my
>>>         apprentices pay. Carried it  (abt 1 CWT) via bus to Kings
>>>         Cross in the days when the conductor would jump off the bus
>>>         and give you had to get it on board........ imagine that on
>>>         a "Bendy Bus" today. See
>>>         http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html for the full
>>>         story.
>>>         OK on the stick info yes but I am CW only really can't get
>>>         too excited about sterile data although as you know I do
>>>         partake occasionally.
>>>         73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>>>
>>>             *From:* Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
>>>             *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>             <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>             *Sent:* Thursday, 11 April 2013, 11:52
>>>             *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range
>>>             236.25 236.75 KHz
>>>
>>>             R Pete
>>>             Well , its possible to  use the emergency vfo  , but
>>>             that  results in a very unstable signal , I remember=20
>>>             down the  Tottenham court road , there  where tea chests
>>>             of crystals , but that  was 1970 .. seems a  lot  of the
>>>             traditional firms have closed ,
>>>             One  of the  =A35  dds with  a driver  would work , but
>>>             they  want to keep  it standard
>>>             DS - That's really the 'correct' situation  , that  -33
>>>             db decode, -3 db lower than normal  was a  good
>>>             indication that  the system  is working ,   over
>>>             ranging  the a/d  is the only  problem . I think
>>>             dynamic  range is  60 d b after processing  , is it   3
>>>             db per  bit  ?  8 bits  , 24  db + 3   that's 27 dB ?=20
>>>             500:1 ?   , but by removing qty  2 mixers   and 2
>>>             oscillators , [ may  be 3 oscillators  1 , hf-up-conv 2
>>>             , pll  conv osc  3  ref osc )  that is a  lot  of noise
>>>             + jitter removed  from the  signal path as well as   imd
>>>             from  2 mixers , I found  a attenuator helped  for mw=20
>>>             and  I have  a mw-filter  , which cleaned  up sw  bands
>>>             ......  nice to  have a panoramic display , 2 mhz this
>>>             time , the  ra17 was 1 mhz and   28 valves + 20 ish  >
>>>             in the  radio
>>>             73-G.
>>>
>>>             *From:* M0FMT <mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>             *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:47 AM
>>>             *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>             <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>             *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range
>>>             236.25 236.75 KHz
>>>
>>>             OK Graham
>>>             Thought it was home brew retro.......... I am in that
>>>             mode and think everbody else is! What do you do at the
>>>             moment inject a Sig Genny?
>>>             Have you checked the net or checked out Vincent -
>>>             QuartzLab etc?
>>>             Anyway what's that master osc circuit. I build from old
>>>             RADCOM (pre 1975 when they published real amateur radio)
>>>             and PW,QST etal. I use modern xtals with no known
>>>             issues. Well trying to get third overtone for 10m not to
>>>             chirp is an issue with me at the moment.
>>>             OK yes got a stick on its way didn't want to tear up my
>>>             existing upconverter design. But not sure there is much
>>>             wrong with the UC approach it works for me. But want to
>>>             try the direct approach. Do you get much Cross mod and
>>>             IM products?
>>>
>>>             73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>>>
>>>                 *From:* Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
>>>                 *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>                 <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>                 *Sent:* Thursday, 11 April 2013, 0:47
>>>                 *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range
>>>                 236.25 236.75 KHz
>>>
>>>                 Ok Pete
>>>                 Q where to  have them  made  ?
>>>                 The  set , Marconi Ocean span 1950's  valve tx=20
>>>                  needs the  big rock's  as the oscillator pass's =20
>>>                 quite a  lot  of power  via them ...hc6u are  no=20
>>>                 good , drive level is very low - the ones fitted=20
>>>                 are the wired- gold  flashed ones  , so cannot  etch
>>>                 into the  band ...
>>>                 the gang  want  to  keep  it standard
>>>                 73 -G.
>>>                 Ps waiting  for qty-3  =A36 dongles : )
>>>
>>>                 *From:* M0FMT <mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>                 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:43 PM
>>>                 *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>                 <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>                 *Subject:* Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range
>>>                 236.25 236.75 KHz
>>>
>>>                 Hi
>>>                 If you want to spend a small fortune get them cut.
>>>                 However build a Mixer VXO from El cheapo standard
>>>                 xtals and or old PMR rocks. Then at your next rally
>>>                 buy a couple of Screw together 10xj or FT243 rocks
>>>                 of any frequency and put the El-cheapo xtals inside.
>>>                 And Hey Presto you have Retro rocks.
>>>                 I have a small all valve 472 tx that uses 6.00
>>>                 -6.472=3D0.472 vxo-able a couple of kc/s
>>>                 12ax7-6am6-6cl6=3D 4wattso/p. Local QRP rig.
>>>                 Hope this helps
>>>                 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>>>
>>>                     *From:* Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
>>>                     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>                     <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>>                     *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 20:30
>>>                     *Subject:* LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range
>>>                     236.25 236.75 KHz
>>>
>>>                     Wanted 10XJ  or FT243  XTALS Range 236.25
>>>                     236.75  KHz
>>>                     Q  Is there  any manufacture of   crystals in
>>>                     this range  ?
>>>                     Or Surplus items available
>>>                     QTY 1 or  2  off
>>>                     TNX- Graham
>>>                     G0NBD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>         --=20
>>         73 de pat g4gvw
>>         es gd dx
>>         qth nr Felixstowe
>>         East Coast UK
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>     --=20
>     73 de pat g4gvw
>     es gd dx
>     qth nr Felixstowe
>     East Coast UK
>
>
>


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ahh! Sorry Pete <br>
      This is probably me still learning how to drive Thunderbird
      through AOL.<br>
      The "learning-curve" is still in a strange part of the hysterisis.
      When I have achieved the correct "bell" shape I'll be happier than
      the rest of you for I shall have successfully come out on the
      other side :&gt;))<br>
      I promise to Evolve from Evolution!<br>
      73 <br>
      <br>
      On 11/04/13 19:17, M0FMT wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:1365704237.75794.YahooMailNeo@web133203.mail.ir2.yahoo.com"
      type="cite">
      <div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial,
        helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
        <div><span>Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it
            keeps sending the same thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the
            price of one.</span></div>
        <div>&nbsp;73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX<br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px;
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                <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
                        style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> pat
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:g4gvw@aol.com">&lt;g4gvw@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> <br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
                    M0FMT <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">&lt;m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk&gt;</a> <br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                    Thursday, 11 April 2013, 18:53<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25
                    236.75 KHz<br>
                  </font> </div>
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                  <div id="yiv1523386243">
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                      <div class="yiv1523386243moz-cite-prefix">Well,
                        you might have been happy, Pete. I discovered
                        that the family cat's whiskers wouldn't work
                        with a bit of coke and we had to go back to a
                        pair of baked bean cans and string!<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote:<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                          arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;
                          background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
                          <div>And we all live in a hole in the road&nbsp;but
                            we were happy!!.....:0)<br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          <div>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX<br>
                            <blockquote style="padding-left: 5px;
                              margin-top: 5px; margin-left: 5px;
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                                  <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"
                                      size="2"> <b><span
                                          style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
                                      pat <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="yiv1523386243moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        href="mailto:g4gvw@aol.com"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:g4gvw@aol.com">mailto:g4gvw@aol.com</a><br>
                                      <b><span style="font-weight:
                                          bold;">To:</span></b> <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="yiv1523386243moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" rel="nofollow"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a>
                                      <br>
                                      <b><span style="font-weight:
                                          bold;">Cc:</span></b> M0FMT <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="yiv1523386243moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                        href="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk">mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk</a>
                                      <br>
                                      <b><span style="font-weight:
                                          bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                      Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06<br>
                                      <b><span style="font-weight:
                                          bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
                                      LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS
                                      Range 236.25 236.75 KHz<br>
                                    </font> </div>
                                  <div
                                    class="yiv1523386243y_msg_container"><br>
                                    <div id="yiv1523386243">
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv1523386243moz-cite-prefix">And

                                          Wireless Set No.17 for &pound;2:19:6
                                          (2Volt accumulator and HT
                                          Battery 10/- extra)<br>
                                          <br>
                                          And we're all getting older!<br>
                                          <br>
                                          73 <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          On 11/04/13 12:18, M0FMT
                                          wrote:<br>
                                        </div>
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                                            <div><span>Hi Graham</span></div>
                                            <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><span>How young you are
                                                my introduction to
                                                Tottenham Court Road
                                                (Proops?) , Lisles
                                                Street (GW Smiths),
                                                Charring Cross &nbsp;and The
                                                Edgeware Road&nbsp; about
                                                1956. Aaaaah those were
                                                the days. <span
                                                  id="yiv1523386243misspell-6"><span>learnt</span></span>
                                                a lot about Radio,&nbsp;Life,
                                                the Universe and
                                                everything there......
                                                hee!</span></div>
                                            <div><span>Got my R107 from
                                                Lisle Street with money
                                                save from my apprentices
                                                pay. Carried it&nbsp; (abt 1
                                                CWT) via bus to Kings
                                                Cross in the days when
                                                the conductor would jump
                                                off the bus and give you
                                                had to get it on
                                                board........ imagine
                                                that on a "Bendy Bus"
                                                today. See <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html" rel="nofollow"
                                                  target="_blank">http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html</a>&nbsp;for


                                                the full story.</span></div>
                                            <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><span>OK on the stick
                                                info yes but I am CW
                                                only really can't get
                                                too excited about
                                                sterile data although as
                                                you know I do partake <span
id="yiv1523386243misspell-9"><span>occasionally<var
                                                      id="yiv1523386243yui-ie-cursor"></var></span></span>.</span><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>73 es GL Pete M0FMT
                                              IO91UX<br>
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                                                          <div>R Pete </div>
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                                                          <div>Well ,
                                                          its possible
                                                          to&nbsp; use the&nbsp;
                                                          emergency&nbsp;
                                                          vfo&nbsp; , but
                                                          that&nbsp; results&nbsp;
                                                          in a very&nbsp;
                                                          unstable&nbsp;
                                                          signal , I&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          remember&nbsp; down
                                                          the&nbsp; Tottenham
                                                          court road ,
                                                          there&nbsp; where&nbsp;
                                                          tea chests of&nbsp;
                                                          crystals , but
                                                          that&nbsp; was&nbsp;
                                                          1970 .. seems&nbsp;
                                                          a&nbsp; lot&nbsp; of
                                                          the&nbsp;
                                                          traditional&nbsp;
                                                          firms have&nbsp;
                                                          closed , </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>One&nbsp; of
                                                          the&nbsp; &pound;5&nbsp; dds&nbsp;
                                                          with&nbsp; a
                                                          driver&nbsp; would&nbsp;
                                                          work , but&nbsp;
                                                          they&nbsp; want to&nbsp;
                                                          keep&nbsp; it&nbsp;
                                                          standard </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>DS -&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          That's really&nbsp;
                                                          the&nbsp;
                                                          'correct'&nbsp;
                                                          situation&nbsp; ,&nbsp;
                                                          that&nbsp; -33 db
                                                          decode, -3&nbsp;db&nbsp;
                                                          lower than&nbsp;
                                                          normal &nbsp;was&nbsp;
                                                          a&nbsp; good&nbsp;
                                                          indication &nbsp;
                                                          that&nbsp; the&nbsp;
                                                          system&nbsp; is&nbsp;
                                                          working
                                                          ,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;over
                                                          ranging&nbsp; the&nbsp;
                                                          a/d&nbsp; is the&nbsp;
                                                          only&nbsp; problem
                                                          . I think&nbsp;
                                                          dynamic&nbsp; range
                                                          is&nbsp; 60 d b
                                                          after&nbsp;
                                                          processing&nbsp; ,
                                                          is it&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 db
                                                          per&nbsp; bit&nbsp; ?&nbsp; 8
                                                          bits&nbsp; , 24&nbsp; db
                                                          + 3&nbsp;&nbsp; that's&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          27 dB ?&nbsp; 500:1
                                                          ? &nbsp; , but&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          by&nbsp;
                                                          removing&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          qty&nbsp; 2&nbsp;
                                                          mixers&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nbsp;
                                                          2&nbsp;
                                                          oscillators&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          , [ may&nbsp; be 3&nbsp;
                                                          oscillators&nbsp; 1
                                                          , hf-up-conv&nbsp;
                                                          2 , pll&nbsp; conv
                                                          osc&nbsp; 3&nbsp; ref
                                                          osc )&nbsp; that&nbsp;
                                                          is a&nbsp; lot&nbsp; of&nbsp;
                                                          noise +
                                                          jitter&nbsp;
                                                          removed&nbsp; from
                                                          the&nbsp; signal&nbsp;
                                                          path as well&nbsp;
                                                          as&nbsp;&nbsp; imd&nbsp;
                                                          from&nbsp; 2&nbsp;
                                                          mixers , I
                                                          found&nbsp; a
                                                          attenuator&nbsp;
                                                          helped&nbsp; for&nbsp;
                                                          mw&nbsp; and&nbsp; I
                                                          have&nbsp; a&nbsp;
                                                          mw-filter&nbsp; ,
                                                          which&nbsp;
                                                          cleaned&nbsp; up&nbsp;
                                                          sw&nbsp; bands&nbsp;
                                                          ......&nbsp; nice
                                                          to&nbsp; have a&nbsp;
                                                          panoramic&nbsp;
                                                          display , 2&nbsp;
                                                          mhz this time
                                                          , the&nbsp; ra17&nbsp;
                                                          was 1 mhz&nbsp;
                                                          and&nbsp;&nbsp; 28&nbsp;
                                                          valves + 20
                                                          ish &nbsp;&gt; in
                                                          the&nbsp; radio&nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
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                                                          <div><b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re: LF: Wanted
                                                          10XJ or FT243
                                                          XTALS Range
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                                                          <div><span>OK
                                                          Graham</span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><span>Thought
                                                          it was home
                                                          brew
                                                          retro..........
                                                          I am in that
                                                          mode and think
                                                          everbody else
                                                          is! What do
                                                          you do at the
                                                          moment inject
                                                          a Sig Genny?</span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><span>Have
                                                          you checked
                                                          the net&nbsp;or
                                                          checked out
                                                          Vincent -
                                                          QuartzLab etc?
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><span>Anyway
                                                          what's that
                                                          master osc
                                                          circuit. I
                                                          build from old
                                                          RADCOM (pre
                                                          1975 when they
                                                          published real
                                                          amateur radio)
                                                          and PW,QST
                                                          etal. I use
                                                          modern xtals
                                                          with no known
                                                          issues. Well
                                                          trying to get
                                                          third overtone
                                                          for 10m not to
                                                          chirp is an
                                                          issue with me
                                                          at the
                                                          moment.&nbsp;</span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><span>OK
                                                          yes got a
                                                          stick on its
                                                          way didn't
                                                          want to tear
                                                          up my existing
                                                          upconverter
                                                          design. But
                                                          not sure there
                                                          is much wrong
                                                          with the UC
                                                          approach it
                                                          works for me.
                                                          But want to
                                                          try the direct
                                                          approach. Do
                                                          you get much
                                                          Cross mod and
                                                          IM products?</span><br>
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                                                          <div>73 es GL
                                                          Pete M0FMT
                                                          IO91UX<br>
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                                                          Re: LF: Wanted
                                                          10XJ or FT243
                                                          XTALS Range
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                                                          <div>Ok Pete </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>Q where
                                                          to&nbsp; have&nbsp;
                                                          them&nbsp; made&nbsp; ?
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>The&nbsp; set&nbsp;
                                                          , Marconi&nbsp;
                                                          Ocean span
                                                          1950's&nbsp; valve&nbsp;
                                                          tx&nbsp; &nbsp;needs&nbsp;
                                                          the&nbsp; big&nbsp;
                                                          rock's&nbsp; as
                                                          the&nbsp;
                                                          oscillator&nbsp;
                                                          pass's&nbsp;&nbsp; quite
                                                          a&nbsp; lot&nbsp; of&nbsp;
                                                          power&nbsp; via
                                                          them ...hc6u&nbsp;
                                                          are&nbsp; no&nbsp; good&nbsp;
                                                          , drive level
                                                          is very low -
                                                          the ones
                                                          fitted&nbsp; are
                                                          the&nbsp;wired-
                                                          gold&nbsp; flashed&nbsp;
                                                          ones&nbsp; , so&nbsp;
                                                          cannot&nbsp; etch&nbsp;
                                                          into the&nbsp; band
                                                          ... </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>the&nbsp;
                                                          gang&nbsp; want
                                                          &nbsp;to&nbsp; keep&nbsp; it&nbsp;
                                                          standard </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>73 -G. </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>Ps&nbsp;
                                                          waiting&nbsp; for&nbsp;
                                                          qty-3&nbsp; &pound;6&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          dongles : )</div>
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                                                          Re: LF: Wanted
                                                          10XJ or FT243
                                                          XTALS Range
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                                                          <div><span>Hi
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><span>If
                                                          you want to
                                                          spend a small
                                                          fortune get
                                                          them cut.
                                                          However build
                                                          a Mixer VXO
                                                          from El cheapo
                                                          standard xtals
                                                          and or old PMR
                                                          rocks. Then at
                                                          your next
                                                          rally buy a
                                                          couple of
                                                          Screw together
                                                          10xj or FT243
                                                          rocks of any
                                                          frequency and
                                                          put the
                                                          El-cheapo
                                                          xtals inside.
                                                          And Hey Presto
                                                          you have Retro
                                                          rocks.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>I
                                                          have a small
                                                          all valve 472
                                                          tx that uses
                                                          6.00
                                                          -6.472=0.472
                                                          vxo-able a
                                                          couple of kc/s
                                                          12ax7-6am6-6cl6=

                                                          4wattso/p.
                                                          Local QRP rig.</span></div>
                                                          <div><span>Hope

                                                          this helps</span></div>
                                                          <div><span></span>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>73 es GL
                                                          Pete M0FMT
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                                                          LF: Wanted
                                                          10XJ or FT243
                                                          XTALS Range
                                                          236.25 236.75
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                                                          <div>Wanted&nbsp;
                                                          10XJ&nbsp; or&nbsp;
                                                          FT243&nbsp; XTALS&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          Range&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          236.25&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          236.75&nbsp; KHz&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>Q&nbsp; Is
                                                          there&nbsp; any&nbsp;
                                                          manufacture&nbsp;
                                                          of&nbsp;&nbsp; crystals&nbsp;
                                                          in this&nbsp;
                                                          range&nbsp; ?</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>Or&nbsp;
                                                          Surplus&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          items&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                          available&nbsp; </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>QTY&nbsp;1&nbsp;
                                                          or&nbsp; 2&nbsp; off&nbsp; </div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>TNX-
                                                          Graham</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>G0NBD</div>
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