Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C676D38000091; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U9OIl-0006Ni-NR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:14:43 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U9OIk-0006NZ-L4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:14:42 +0000 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U9OIh-0006M7-Mr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:14:41 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBAPJLKVECZMW3/2dsb2JhbAANNQOGT7goglqBH4MSAQEBAQMjZgkCCQ8JFgEBCQICCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGaNJoScZFbjn4XEYIcgRMDlj2TbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,724,1355097600"; d="scan'208,217";a="419580330" Received: from host-2-100-197-183.as13285.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([2.100.197.183]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2013 23:14:17 +0000 Message-ID: <51294D46.5000307@psk31.plus.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 23:14:14 +0000 From: g3zjo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <280BD27C55F446A1B4E6809CE3B88BAE@White> <512923EA.4090202@mbsks.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <512923EA.4090202@mbsks.franken.de> X-Antivirus: avast! 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[...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4ddab22473abf526acb7f30368d3741e Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-15, 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000409030101040006090603" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db40551294d9c2def X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000409030101040006090603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Roland I have been following your transmissions of WSPR15. Yo were not alone in transmitting this mode, most nights there was also LA6TPA he is there also tonight. G6AVK has also been transmitting regularly on the mode. I would be interested in seeing your details of comparisons between WSP2 and WSPR15. The only comparisons I can find, transmissions being on both modes and received by the same stations are these. Unfortunately they are on different days. WSPR2 2013-02-23 20:22 DL3NDR 0.475759 -21 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3ABK-2 JO21it 514 319 2013-02-23 20:22 DL3NDR 0.475759 -25 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3FNY JO22nc 504 313 WSPR15 2013-02-23 20:45 DL3NDR 0.475816 -24 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3ABK-15 JO21it 514 319 2013-02-23 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475816 -25 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3ABK-15 JO21it 514 319 2013-02-23 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475817 -32 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3FNY JO22nc 504 313 2013-02-23 20:45 DL3NDR 0.475817 -29 0 JN59no +27 0.501 PA3FNY JO22nc 504 313 I have likewise followed LA6TPA's tests he has been changing modes in the same sessions and likewise I can see no real provable advantages of WSPR15 on 630m. Unfortunately of course during transmission WSPR15 there are are seven missed opportunities for the path to be tested with WSPR2. G6AVK also changes from WSPR2 to WSPR15, knowing him well I have be able to demand habeas corpus. As yet nothing has been achieved on WSPR15 that is not better reported with WSPR2. This subject has been the subject of some recent posts to this group from me. BTW my reports WSPR15 are not reliable because my WSPR2 transmissions are blocking 2 minutes from every WSPR15 received. I will be interested in your comments and any further test you try. All the best Eddie G3ZJO On 23/02/2013 20:17, Roland Bruestle wrote: > Hallo, MW-friends, > I am transmitting WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX 475.818 kHz (1.68kHz). > This is for a while my last transmission with WSPR-15 on 600m. > > During the last 14 days I was received by following reporters: > > Spot Database > > 40 spots: > > Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az > 2013-02-18 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475820 -28 0 JN59no 0.5 > TF3HZ HP94ad 2531 322 > 2013-02-22 04:46 DL3NDR 0.475818 -31 0 JN59no 0.5 > LB9YE JP54pu 1696 0 > 2013-02-17 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475818 -33 1 JN59no 0.5 > LA6TPA JP54rl 1654 1 > 2013-02-12 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475820 -34 -1 JN59no 0.5 > R3LW KO54mq 1465 60 > 2013-02-10 21:46 DL3NDR 0.475815 -25 0 JN59no 0.5 > LA3JJ JO59bh 1081 357 > 2013-02-18 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475820 -20 0 JN59no 0.5 > GW0EZY IO82ho 1064 294 > 2013-02-18 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475818 -35 0 JN59no 0.5 > G0MJI IO83ni 1053 299 > 2013-02-17 22:46 DL3NDR 0.475818 -8 0 JN59no 0.5 > G8HUH IO81mg 1013 286 > 2013-02-17 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475817 -32 -1 JN59no 0.5 > UW8SM_SWL KN28iv 988 89 > 2013-02-16 20:46 DL3NDR 0.475811 -21 0 JN59no 0.5 > G4JVF IO93if 949 300 > 2013-02-17 20:16 DL3NDR 0.475819 -27 0 JN59no 0.5 > M0EYT IO80xs 945 283 > 2013-02-20 22:46 DL3NDR 0.475820 -13 0 JN59no 0.5 > G3ZJO IO92ng 890 294 > 2013-02-18 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475820 -17 0 JN59no 0.5 > G0MQW IO91ml 878 288 > 2013-02-19 05:00 DL3NDR 0.475818 -36 -2 JN59no 0.5 > G4CAO IO91si 841 288 > 2013-02-22 03:30 DL3NDR 0.475820 -29 0 JN59no 0.5 > M0BMU IO91vr 832 291 > 2013-02-19 05:00 DL3NDR 0.475821 -17 -2 JN59no 0.5 > G4KPX JO02dj 818 296 > 2013-02-09 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475817 -14 0 JN59no 0.5 > G8OCV JO01cn 800 290 > 2013-02-15 20:46 DL3NDR 0.475821 -13 0 JN59no 0.5 > G6AVK-W15 JO01ho 773 291 > 2013-02-15 23:46 DL3NDR 0.475817 -17 0 JN59no 0.5 > G6AVK-15 JO01ho 773 291 > 2013-02-12 22:30 DL3NDR 0.475817 -9 0 JN59no 0.5 > G6AVK JO01ho 773 291 > 2013-02-17 22:00 DL3NDR 0.475817 -16 0 JN59no 0.5 > F59706 JN07th 745 254 > 2013-02-12 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475817 -13 -1 JN59no 0.5 > IK1WVQ JN44cb 655 201 > 2013-02-10 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475815 -22 -1 JN59no 0.5 > F5WK-W15 JN18hp 627 263 > 2013-02-12 22:30 DL3NDR 0.475817 -18 -1 JN59no 0.5 > F6CNI\W15 JN19qb 565 267 > 2013-02-22 03:30 DL3NDR 0.475820 -12 0 JN59no 0.5 > F6CNI-W15 JN19qb 565 267 > 2013-02-16 17:46 DL3NDR 0.475818 -19 0 JN59no 0.5 > F6CNI\15 JN19qb 565 267 > 2013-02-17 15:46 DL3NDR 0.475818 -38 0 JN59no 0.5 > F6CNI-BEV JN19qb 565 267 > 2013-02-10 21:46 DL3NDR 0.475817 -21 1 JN59no 0.5 > DF2FF JO44th 534 349 > 2013-02-09 20:16 DL3NDR 0.475815 -16 0 JN59no 0.5 > PA3ABK\W15 JO21it 514 301 > 2013-02-10 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475815 -18 -1 JN59no 0.5 > PA3ABK-15 JO21it 514 301 > 2013-02-22 21:46 DL3NDR 0.475820 -8 0 JN59no 0.5 > PA3FNY JO22nc 504 306 > 2013-02-16 08:30 DL3NDR 0.475818 -37 0 JN59no 0.5 > PA3FNYW15 JO22nc 504 306 > 2013-02-18 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475818 -31 0 JN59no 0.5 > IW3SGT JN65vp 483 155 > 2013-02-09 21:46 DL3NDR 0.475809 -10 0 JN59no 0.5 > DG3LV JO53gv 479 355 > 2013-02-10 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475816 -17 -1 JN59no 0.5 > S57MK JN75cw 468 149 > 2013-02-10 21:16 DL3NDR 0.475815 -26 0 JN59no 0.5 > DL-SWL JO52hp 340 354 > 2013-02-10 23:16 DL3NDR 0.475816 -7 -1 JN59no 0.5 > DD7PC JN49ax 225 282 > 2013-02-12 19:00 DL3NDR 0.475817 -31 0 JN59no 0.5 > DJ7KA JO61pb 223 43 > 2013-02-19 21:00 DL3NDR 0.475822 -9 -1 JN59no 0.5 > DF8UO JN48ex 211 252 > 2013-02-16 23:30 DL3NDR 0.475818 +4 0 JN59no 0.5 > DJ6LB JN59mm 11 213 > > > > I say thank you to all this Reporters. It was a very nice experience. > WSPR-15 proved to the better WSPR for far distances. > > I hoped that there would be more transmitting stations with WSPR-15. > As I know, I was the only one. > > At the End hat been me with 3 to 6 reporters. Thank you to this OMs. > > Good luck and success with our hobby. > > 73 > Roland DL3NDR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > 73 > Roland DL3NDR --------------000409030101040006090603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Roland

I have been following your transmissions of WSPR15.
Yo were not alone in transmitting this mode, most nights there was also LA6TPA he is there also tonight. G6AVK has also been transmitting regularly on the mode.

I would be interested in seeing your details of comparisons between WSP2 and WSPR15. The only comparisons I can find, transmissions being on both modes and  received by the same stations are these. Unfortunately they are on different days.

WSPR2
2013-02-23 20:22      DL3NDR      0.475759      -21      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3ABK-2      JO21it      514      319
2013-02-23 20:22      DL3NDR      0.475759      -25      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3FNY      JO22nc      504      313

WSPR15
2013-02-23 20:45      DL3NDR      0.475816      -24      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3ABK-15      JO21it      514      319
2013-02-23 21:00      DL3NDR      0.475816      -25      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3ABK-15      JO21it      514      319
2013-02-23 21:00      DL3NDR      0.475817      -32      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3FNY      JO22nc      504      313
2013-02-23 20:45      DL3NDR      0.475817      -29      0      JN59no      +27      0.501      PA3FNY      JO22nc      504      313

I have likewise followed LA6TPA's tests he has been changing modes in the same sessions and likewise I can see no real provable advantages of WSPR15 on 630m. Unfortunately of course during transmission WSPR15 there are are seven missed opportunities for the path to be tested with WSPR2.

G6AVK also changes from WSPR2 to WSPR15, knowing him well I have be able to demand habeas corpus. As yet nothing has been achieved on WSPR15 that is not better reported with WSPR2.
This subject has been the subject of some recent posts to this group from me.

BTW my reports WSPR15 are not reliable because my WSPR2 transmissions are blocking 2 minutes from every WSPR15 received.

I will be interested in your comments and any further test you try.

All the best

Eddie G3ZJO


On 23/02/2013 20:17, Roland Bruestle wrote:
Hallo, MW-friends,
I am transmitting WSPR-15 on dial 474.2kHz, TX 475.818  kHz (1.68kHz).
This is for a while my last transmission with WSPR-15 on 600m.

During the last 14 days I was received by following reporters:

Spot Database

40 spots:

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2013-02-18 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475820   -28   0   JN59no   0.5   TF3HZ   HP94ad   2531   322 
 2013-02-22 04:46   DL3NDR   0.475818   -31   0   JN59no   0.5   LB9YE   JP54pu   1696   0 
 2013-02-17 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475818   -33   1   JN59no   0.5   LA6TPA   JP54rl   1654   1 
 2013-02-12 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475820   -34   -1   JN59no   0.5   R3LW   KO54mq   1465   60 
 2013-02-10 21:46   DL3NDR   0.475815   -25   0   JN59no   0.5   LA3JJ   JO59bh   1081   357 
 2013-02-18 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475820   -20   0   JN59no   0.5   GW0EZY   IO82ho   1064   294 
 2013-02-18 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475818   -35   0   JN59no   0.5   G0MJI   IO83ni   1053   299 
 2013-02-17 22:46   DL3NDR   0.475818   -8   0   JN59no   0.5   G8HUH   IO81mg   1013   286 
 2013-02-17 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475817   -32   -1   JN59no   0.5   UW8SM_SWL   KN28iv   988   89 
 2013-02-16 20:46   DL3NDR   0.475811   -21   0   JN59no   0.5   G4JVF   IO93if   949   300 
 2013-02-17 20:16   DL3NDR   0.475819   -27   0   JN59no   0.5   M0EYT   IO80xs   945   283 
 2013-02-20 22:46   DL3NDR   0.475820   -13   0   JN59no   0.5   G3ZJO   IO92ng   890   294 
 2013-02-18 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475820   -17   0   JN59no   0.5   G0MQW   IO91ml   878   288 
 2013-02-19 05:00   DL3NDR   0.475818   -36   -2   JN59no   0.5   G4CAO   IO91si   841   288 
 2013-02-22 03:30   DL3NDR   0.475820   -29   0   JN59no   0.5   M0BMU   IO91vr   832   291 
 2013-02-19 05:00   DL3NDR   0.475821   -17   -2   JN59no   0.5   G4KPX   JO02dj   818   296 
 2013-02-09 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475817   -14   0   JN59no   0.5   G8OCV   JO01cn   800   290 
 2013-02-15 20:46   DL3NDR   0.475821   -13   0   JN59no   0.5   G6AVK-W15   JO01ho   773   291 
 2013-02-15 23:46   DL3NDR   0.475817   -17   0   JN59no   0.5   G6AVK-15   JO01ho   773   291 
 2013-02-12 22:30   DL3NDR   0.475817   -9   0   JN59no   0.5   G6AVK   JO01ho   773   291 
 2013-02-17 22:00   DL3NDR   0.475817   -16   0   JN59no   0.5   F59706   JN07th   745   254 
 2013-02-12 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475817   -13   -1   JN59no   0.5   IK1WVQ   JN44cb   655   201 
 2013-02-10 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475815   -22   -1   JN59no   0.5   F5WK-W15   JN18hp   627   263 
 2013-02-12 22:30   DL3NDR   0.475817   -18   -1   JN59no   0.5   F6CNI\W15   JN19qb   565   267 
 2013-02-22 03:30   DL3NDR   0.475820   -12   0   JN59no   0.5   F6CNI-W15   JN19qb   565   267 
 2013-02-16 17:46   DL3NDR   0.475818   -19   0   JN59no   0.5   F6CNI\15   JN19qb   565   267 
 2013-02-17 15:46   DL3NDR   0.475818   -38   0   JN59no   0.5   F6CNI-BEV   JN19qb   565   267 
 2013-02-10 21:46   DL3NDR   0.475817   -21   1   JN59no   0.5   DF2FF   JO44th   534   349 
 2013-02-09 20:16   DL3NDR   0.475815   -16   0   JN59no   0.5   PA3ABK\W15   JO21it   514   301 
 2013-02-10 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475815   -18   -1   JN59no   0.5   PA3ABK-15   JO21it   514   301 
 2013-02-22 21:46   DL3NDR   0.475820   -8   0   JN59no   0.5   PA3FNY   JO22nc   504   306 
 2013-02-16 08:30   DL3NDR   0.475818   -37   0   JN59no   0.5   PA3FNYW15   JO22nc   504   306 
 2013-02-18 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475818   -31   0   JN59no   0.5   IW3SGT   JN65vp   483   155 
 2013-02-09 21:46   DL3NDR   0.475809   -10   0   JN59no   0.5   DG3LV   JO53gv   479   355 
 2013-02-10 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475816   -17   -1   JN59no   0.5   S57MK   JN75cw   468   149 
 2013-02-10 21:16   DL3NDR   0.475815   -26   0   JN59no   0.5   DL-SWL   JO52hp   340   354 
 2013-02-10 23:16   DL3NDR   0.475816   -7   -1   JN59no   0.5   DD7PC   JN49ax   225   282 
 2013-02-12 19:00   DL3NDR   0.475817   -31   0   JN59no   0.5   DJ7KA   JO61pb   223   43 
 2013-02-19 21:00   DL3NDR   0.475822   -9   -1   JN59no   0.5   DF8UO   JN48ex   211   252 
 2013-02-16 23:30   DL3NDR   0.475818   +4   0   JN59no   0.5   DJ6LB   JN59mm   11   213 


I say thank you to all this Reporters. It was a very nice experience.
WSPR-15 proved to the better WSPR for far distances.

I hoped that  there would be more transmitting stations with WSPR-15. As I know, I  was the only one.

At the End hat been me with 3 to 6 reporters. Thank you to this OMs.

Good luck and success with our hobby.

73
Roland DL3NDR




























































Good luck.

73
Roland DL3NDR

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