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Content preview: From: Roland Bruestle Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Ok Roland You need ROS 7-1-1 from the same site as Opera [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: ffb804a3bc61dd08faf4263407b608d3 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01CD91FB.AC93F950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb50524a7b5da5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01CD91FB.AC93F950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Ok Roland=20 You need ROS 7-1-1 from the same site as Opera=20 Install is the same , create a folder and un-zip into - run the = install exe =20 user info etc as normal=20 To access the MF modes select LF and MF bands from the = frequency list , these are all dial frequency , usb =20 if you send beacon , then you should have ''de'' before the = call , or the software will not recognise your call =20 for MF-2 , de g0nbd would be long enough , software is linked = to the psk-map as well to decode , the Rx station 'must' decode the start of the signal = , as the sequence is LOCK-DATA-STOP so to ensure correct RX - TX alignment , the protocol is to use = the 'dial - usb' frequency as operating frequency=20 , same as Opera ,=20 http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ If you have any problems email Jose direct or myself , but the = mode is quite stable now .. there are a lot of features in the = ROS data mode , with e-mail reports , remote operation etc , GL - 73 -G.=20 Graham, I'm using Spectrum Lab. How do I find the program for mf.-2? Is it ROS v7? 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 22:07, schrieb Graham: ''sounds good''. This is the INVISIBLE ROS that spooked MAL = hihi=20 If you can here mf-2 , then the power is too high . Gerhard = dk6ni uses this mode , you might have qso=20 could be the first data qso on the new band ?=20 I don't see any signal on the web-sdr , looking at 475 , small = trace hf , but what software has psk8 ? 73-G.. From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Graham, sounds good. Let me have a look at it and then a test. May be I can do it to morrow. Today, I am transmitting PSK8. 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 19:06, schrieb Graham: Ok Roland=20 That's a good Tx system ! much smaller than my Racal = MA1723=20 If you have SDR then the ros-mf data modes can be used = directly with SDR , very little use has been made of them due to = the need for audio>rf or sdr Tx drive ..or by using = Transverter=20 These modes are 100 Hz B/W MFSK , MF-2 is the same s/n = as wspr and MF-7 , the same data rate as psk32 , but some 10 = to 12 dB lower s/n ...part of the ROS data package , download the = same site as opera=20 This was nearly a mistake as Joe has the Rx set to 7 only = , so when I switched to MF-1 , decodes stopped , the MF-7 was a = warm-up test ! = http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/the-blue-ribbon-fastest-live-dat= a-to-cross-the-atlantic/ Good luck with the trials=20 73-G.. From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:31 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK31 Graham, I am using a Soft Rock SDR transceiver.=20 I modified a Soft Rock SDR 160m to 500kHz. Additionally I am using a CB PA changed to 500kHz with 80 W output. = Ok, this is not very linear. That's means any modulation mode is possible. Why are you asking? 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 17:32, schrieb Graham: Roland=20 Do you have transvertor ? can use any audio based mode ? G.. From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: MF tonite BSK31 hello MW, I am transmitting PSK31 on the transmitting frequency 475kHZ (not = dial). It's mainly a test. It's the first PSK31 transmission with this = equipment. 73=20 Roland DL3NDR ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01CD91FB.AC93F950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8

Ok Roland =
 
You need  = ROS =20 7-1-1   from the  same  site  as Opera =
 
Install  is = the =20 same  , create  a  folder and   un-zip  = into =20 - run the  install  exe 
user info  = etc =20 as  normal
 
To access  = the  MF=20 modes   select   LF and  MF bands  from = the =20 frequency  list  , these  are  all  dial =20 frequency  , usb 
 
if   = you  send=20 beacon  , then   you  should  have  = ''de'' =20 before  the  call  , or the  software  = will =20 not  recognise  your  call 
for  MF-2 = ,   de=20 g0nbd  would  be  long enough  ,   = software is=20 linked to the  psk-map  as  well
 
to decode  , = the =20 Rx  station  'must' decode the  start of the  = signal  ,=20 as the  sequence  is   LOCK-DATA-STOP
so to ensure  = correct =20 RX - TX  alignment  , the  protocol  is to  use = the   'dial - usb' frequency  as operating  = frequency=20
, same as Opera , =
 
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/
 
If you  = have  any =20 problems  email  Jose  direct or  myself  , = but =20 the  mode  is  quite stable  now    .. = there =20 are a  lot  of features  in the  ROS data  = mode  ,=20 with  e-mail   reports  , remote  = operation =20 etc  ,
 
GL - 73 -G. =
 
Graham,
I'm using Spectrum Lab.
How = do I find=20 the program for mf.-2? Is it ROS v7?

73 Roland

Am = 13.09.2012=20 22:07, schrieb Graham:
 
''sounds good''.   This  is = the =20 INVISIBLE   ROS that  spooked MAL  hihi =
 
If you can  here  mf-2  , = then=20 the  power  is  too  high  . Gerhard = dk6ni  uses=20 this  mode , you  might  have  qso
could be the  first  data  = qso on=20 the  new  band  ?
 
I don't see  any  signal  on = the =20 web-sdr , looking  at 475 , small  trace  hf  , = but =20 what  software  has  psk8 ?
 
73-G..
 

From: Roland = Bruestle=20
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:48 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8

Graham,
sounds good.
Let me have a = look at it=20 and then a test.
May be I  can do it to morrow.
Today, I am = transmitting PSK8.

73
Roland

Am 13.09.2012 19:06, = schrieb=20 Graham:
Ok Roland
 
That's  a  good  Tx =20 system  !  much smaller  than  my  =20 Racal  MA1723
 
If you  have  SDR  = then =20 the  ros-mf  data  modes  can be  used=20 directly  with  SDR   , very little  = use =20 has  been made of them  due to the  need for =20 audio>rf  or  sdr  Tx  drive  ..or  = by  using  Transverter
 
These  modes  are  100 Hz=20 B/W    MFSK   ,  MF-2  is = the =20 same  s/n as  wspr  and  MF-7  , the  = same=20 data  rate  as  psk32 , but  some  10 to 12 = dB  lower s/n ...part of the  = ROS=20 data  package  , download  the  same  = site  as=20 opera
 
This  was  nearly  a  = mistake  as  Joe has the  Rx  set to 7  = only =20 , so  when I switched  to  MF-1  , decodes  = stopped=20 , the  MF-7  was a  warm-up  test  = !
 
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/the-blu= e-ribbon-fastest-live-data-to-cross-the-atlantic/
 
Good  luck  with the  = trials=20
 
73-G..

From: Roland = Bruestle=20
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:31 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK31

Graham,
I am using a Soft Rock SDR=20 transceiver.
I modified a Soft Rock SDR 160m to=20 500kHz.
 Additionally I am using a CB PA changed to 500kHz = with 80 W=20 output. Ok, this is not very linear.
That's means any modulation = mode is=20 possible. Why are you asking?

73
Roland

Am = 13.09.2012=20 17:32, schrieb Graham:
Roland
 
Do you  have  transvertor ? = can =20 use  any  audio  based mode ?
 
G..

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:17 PM
Subject: LF: MF tonite BSK31

hello MW,
I am transmitting PSK31 on the = transmitting=20 frequency 475kHZ (not dial).

It's mainly a test. It's the = first=20 PSK31 transmission with this equipment.

73
Roland=20 = DL3NDR






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