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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan I bet there was no confusion over dates with your notifications, I bet the UK makes you smile. I applied yesterday before the link went down and actually applied twice because the Submit Application button returned a message 'you have decided to save as a PDF'. The second submission said 'Application Rejected, NOV already applied for for this call sign'. However I received no NOV so I have just applied for the third time, no rejection as duplicate / triplicate and the NOV has arrived. Third time lucky. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: da9a90c67b7e22f6718c156d8d99c1a4 Subject: Re: LF: NOV 472 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090402040202040209090603" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8d50d317d3335e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090402040202040209090603 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan I bet there was no confusion over dates with your notifications, I bet the UK makes you smile. I applied yesterday before the link went down and actually applied twice because the Submit Application button returned a message 'you have decided to save as a PDF'. The second submission said 'Application Rejected, NOV already applied for for this call sign'. However I received no NOV so I have just applied for the third time, no rejection as duplicate / triplicate and the NOV has arrived. Third time lucky. The dating is ambiguous, and contradicts the Ofcom announcement. Date of issue of this Variation: 20 December 2012 Date of expiry of this Variation: 20 December 2017 But I must agree with Mal if the variation is issued today and expires on 20th Dec 2017 it would seem to be valid as of now, if they have decided to give a little early pressy why don't they say so. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 20/12/2012 12:47, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > Yes, if the 20th is stated, then just use it from now on. No one will > care or even complain. And no one seriously expects trouble. > > 472.5 is not a good frequency. There is a permanent QRM signal there, > observed/confirmed by several stations (such as DL4YHF). Thus we > prefer 472.2 or 472.8 in recent times. However some stations still > stick to 472.5, which is not a good choice. > > Last night i added a variometer part for the MF coil. This covers > 449...482kHz now, which is suboptimal. Let me spend some time to > optimise the adjustable range. > > CUL, Stefan > > Am 20.12.2012 12:57, schrieb mal hamilton: >> Stefan >> as far as I am concerned it is effective from now. >> Check 472.5 Khz now >> de mal/g3kev >> > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5971 - Release Date: 12/19/12 > --------------090402040202040209090603 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan

I bet there was no confusion over dates with your notifications, I bet the UK makes you smile.

I applied yesterday before the link went down and actually applied twice because the Submit Application button returned a message 'you have decided to save as a PDF'. The second submission said 'Application Rejected, NOV already applied for for this call sign'. However I received no NOV so I have just applied for the third time, no rejection as duplicate / triplicate and the NOV has arrived. Third time lucky.

The dating is ambiguous, and contradicts the Ofcom announcement.
 
Date of issue of this Variation: 20 December 2012
Date of expiry of this Variation: 20 December 2017

But I must agree with Mal if the variation is issued today and expires on 20th Dec 2017 it would seem to be valid as of now, if they have decided to give a little early pressy why don't they say so.


73 Eddie G3ZJO


On 20/12/2012 12:47, Stefan Schäfer wrote:
Yes, if the 20th is stated, then just use it from now on. No one will care or even complain. And no one seriously expects trouble.

472.5 is not a good frequency. There is a permanent QRM signal there, observed/confirmed by several stations (such as DL4YHF). Thus we prefer 472.2 or 472.8 in recent times. However some stations still stick to 472.5, which is not a good choice.

Last night i added a variometer part for the MF coil. This covers 449...482kHz now, which is suboptimal. Let me spend some time to optimise the adjustable range.

CUL, Stefan

Am 20.12.2012 12:57, schrieb mal hamilton:
Stefan
as far as I am concerned it is effective from now.
Check 472.5 Khz now
de mal/g3kev
 

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5971 - Release Date: 12/19/12


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