Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 09EFF38000089; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TSYUW-0007uZ-Fi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:25:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TSYUW-0007uQ-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:25:48 +0000 Received: from ppa04.princeton.edu ([128.112.128.215]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TSYUT-0002yg-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:25:46 +0000 Received: from csgsmtp200l.Princeton.EDU (csgsmtp200l.Princeton.EDU [128.112.130.131]) by ppa04.Princeton.EDU (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9SJPhoA026187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:25:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (pool-173-61-149-45.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net [173.61.149.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by csgsmtp200l.Princeton.EDU (8.13.8/8.12.9) with ESMTP id q9SJPhdh030378 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:25:43 -0400 Message-ID: <508D86B7.1030001@princeton.edu> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:25:43 -0400 From: Joe Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-10-28_05:2012-10-26,2012-10-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=quarantine_notspam policy=quarantine score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1210280228 X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Roger, > After about 1 minute or so, the program just closes itself and disappears > from the PC screen. Please open a command-prompt window and start the program from there. 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Please open a command-prompt window and start the program from there. For example, C:\> cd \wsjtx C:\> wsjtx When the program dies, send me any error message left in the command-prompt window. > I am using a SignalLink VOX controlled sound card interface that I use for > WSPR. Also, when I reload the program I have to reload my callsign, grid > etc.every time. This makes it sound like you may have ignored the installation advice in the Quick-Start Guide: "Under Vista or Windows 7 be sure to install WSJT-X into its own directory (the suggested default is c:\wsjtx) rather than C:\Program Files\wsjtx." Please confirm. > Although I very much hope to use the mode for QSOs please do not > underestimate the value of a weak signal beaconing function with an > internet database. This has proved extremely valuable on WSPR as people > sometimes leave a RX and PC running to monitor when they are busy and not > available for QSOs. There will be far more people able to receive and > report than TX on MF/LF. This is especially true on 136kHz. Yes, I understand these points, and beacons have their place. WSPR would not be there if I did not believe this. The question in my mind is the degree to which beacon-like features should be mixed with a mode designed for making QSOs. If beaconing behavior is desired, why not use WSPR? If it's important to have, say, 10 dB better sensitivity than WSPR, then maybe a "slow WSPR" mode should be developed and used, rather than JT9. -- 73, Joe, K1JT