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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I will try to catch you Markus, although I do not have my best equipment available today. la5vna s Den 27.10.2012 23:59, skrev Markus Vester: > Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during even 2-minute > slots. > > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF > > This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, > so doesn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for the > long version, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth all > this digital stuff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well > documented and open source. > > There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, the > activity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time back I > believe Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-facto > digital mode on 472kHz and 136kHz. > > I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, or > perhaps an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 > activity as this was one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing. > > I may give it a go on 500kHz next week. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Schäfer > > wrote: > > Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret ;-) > He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday. > > Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, JT9... > But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promising > at all. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > > [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [80.202.8.16 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 40d35b6fcf8b66e4fec28fa30f99f125 Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_aUS8KE0Ju3BFnQNjDgIrxA)" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd508c5b115bae X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_aUS8KE0Ju3BFnQNjDgIrxA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I will try to catch you Markus, although I do not have my best equipm= ent available today. la5vna s Den 27.10.2012 23:59, skrev Markus Vester: > Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during even 2-minut= e > slots. > =20 > 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Roger Lapthorn > *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF > > This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK= , > so doesn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for = the > long version, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth a= ll > this digital stuff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well > documented and open source. > > There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, = the > activity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time bac= k I > believe Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-fac= to > digital mode on 472kHz and 136kHz. > > I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, o= r > perhaps an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 > activity as this was one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing. > > I may give it a go on 500kHz next week. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Sch=E4fer > > wrote: > > Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret ;-) > He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday. > > Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, J= T9... > But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promisin= g > at all. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > --=20 > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > > --=20 LA5VNA Steinar loc:jo59jq www.opera.no --Boundary_(ID_aUS8KE0Ju3BFnQNjDgIrxA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE

I will try to catch you Markus, = although I do not = have my  best equipment available today.

la5vna s





Den 27.10.2012 23:59, skrev Markus Vester:
Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during eve= n 2-minute slots.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)

This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, so doesn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for the long version, no-one will be complaining about ho= w much bandwidth all this digital stuff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well documented and open source.

There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now availab= le, the activity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time back I believe Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-facto digital mode on 472kHz and 136kHz.

I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I gues= s, or perhaps an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display J= T9 activity as this was one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconi= ng.

I may give it a go on 500kHz next week.

73s
Roger G3XBM





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