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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Steinar, sorry, I can do it this evening. Lets try it another day. 73 Roland DL3NDR Am 13.10.2012 22:59, schrieb Roland Bruestle: > Hello Steinar, > this is no problem at all. You have got a very strong signal. That's good. > Let's try tomorrow again on the same frequency of 47486 at 17:00 UTC. > I'm starting with 0.5W and when you receive me than I switch over to > 0.01W. > till tomorrow > Good Night > Roland DL3NDR > > Am 13.10.2012 22:24, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/b.jpg >> >> LA5VNA Steinar >> loc:JO59jq >> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >> www.opera.no >> >> >> >> Den 13.10.2012 22:03, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>> Roland/Markus >>> >>> This is my mistake and my mistake only . I have to much audio cables >>> going into my PC ( I four audio cards ) and I have been monitoring wrong >>> freq (136khz) with wrong radio --blush--- >>> >>> When I am now using the right radio , I got a nice signal :) >>> >>> (I am ashamed of my self ) >>> >>> >>> LA5VNA Steinar >>> loc:JO59jq >>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>> www.opera.no >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Den 13.10.2012 20:15, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>> Steinar, >>>> I increase the power, than hopefully you will find me. 80W/0.5W. >>>> Roland >>>> >>>> Am 13.10.2012 20:09, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >>>>> It was not :( >>>>> >>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>> www.opera.no >>>>> >>>>> Den 13.10.2012 19:52, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>> Roland , I hope this is you ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/DL3NDR.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 18:40, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>>> No problem Roland :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am monitoring and I will give you a report as soon as I get one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 18:27, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>>>>>> Steinar, >>>>>>>> sorry, I will already transmit from 19:00 MEZ ore [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [193.175.24.41 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 903ce439c63f3d003fd332ac7920b8c3 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-64 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090106090305020300010900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ca507accc328b3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090106090305020300010900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steinar, sorry, I can do it this evening. Lets try it another day. 73 Roland DL3NDR Am 13.10.2012 22:59, schrieb Roland Bruestle: > Hello Steinar, > this is no problem at all. You have got a very strong signal. That's good. > Let's try tomorrow again on the same frequency of 47486 at 17:00 UTC. > I'm starting with 0.5W and when you receive me than I switch over to > 0.01W. > till tomorrow > Good Night > Roland DL3NDR > > Am 13.10.2012 22:24, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/b.jpg >> >> LA5VNA Steinar >> loc:JO59jq >> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >> www.opera.no >> >> >> >> Den 13.10.2012 22:03, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>> Roland/Markus >>> >>> This is my mistake and my mistake only . I have to much audio cables >>> going into my PC ( I four audio cards ) and I have been monitoring wrong >>> freq (136khz) with wrong radio --blush--- >>> >>> When I am now using the right radio , I got a nice signal :) >>> >>> (I am ashamed of my self ) >>> >>> >>> LA5VNA Steinar >>> loc:JO59jq >>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>> www.opera.no >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Den 13.10.2012 20:15, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>> Steinar, >>>> I increase the power, than hopefully you will find me. 80W/0.5W. >>>> Roland >>>> >>>> Am 13.10.2012 20:09, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >>>>> It was not :( >>>>> >>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>> www.opera.no >>>>> >>>>> Den 13.10.2012 19:52, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>> Roland , I hope this is you ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/DL3NDR.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 18:40, skrev Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>>> No problem Roland :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am monitoring and I will give you a report as soon as I get one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 18:27, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>>>>>> Steinar, >>>>>>>> sorry, I will already transmit from 19:00 MEZ ore 17:00 UTC >>>>>>>> Roland >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 13.10.2012 17:41, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>>>>> Yes , I know so my dial is 0.473360 >>>>>>>>> and in my wspr soft the "RX BFO (Hz)" is 1500 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 17:24, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Steinar, >>>>>>>>>> I have changed to WSPR-64. >>>>>>>>>> Important is, that our signal is on the same frequency. The >>>>>>>>>> transmitted >>>>>>>>>> frequency is 474.2+0.66=474.86KHz. >>>>>>>>>> I will start at 19:00 UTC. >>>>>>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Roland DL3NDR >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am 13.10.2012 16:51, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roland >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First, I made a typo in my email. It should be wspr-64 . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Markus (DF6NM) sent me this text some time ago: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "WSPR 64 can be generated and received with the current setup. You >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> only have to change decimation factor from /dec=2048 to 4096, >>>>>>>>>>> and adapt >>>>>>>>>>> the arguments in the waitraster commands (repeat period and >>>>>>>>>>> leadtimes) >>>>>>>>>>> to full hour frames (3600 instead of 1800, etc). " >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I have not completely misunderstood Markus, I think here is the >>>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>>> parameters: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For TX : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> del audio1.dat >>>>>>>>>>> start sndoutp1.exe /sr=48000 /dec=4096 /fc=660 /fn=audio1.dat >>>>>>>>>>> /gain=1 >>>>>>>>>>> :loop >>>>>>>>>>> waitraster 3600 20 >>>>>>>>>>> copy wspr.dat audio1.dat >>>>>>>>>>> sleep 5 >>>>>>>>>>> goto loop >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will use this for RX: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> del audio.tmp >>>>>>>>>>> del audio2.dat >>>>>>>>>>> start sndoutpt.exe /sr=48000 /fc=1500 /dec=128 /fn=audio2.dat >>>>>>>>>>> start sndinput.exe /sr=48000 /fc=1500 /dec=4096 /maxsize=200k >>>>>>>>>>> waitraster 3600 -24 >>>>>>>>>>> del audio.dat >>>>>>>>>>> :loop >>>>>>>>>>> waitraster 3600 -24 >>>>>>>>>>> del audio.dat >>>>>>>>>>> waitraster -120 -1.5 >>>>>>>>>>> copy audio.dat audio2.dat >>>>>>>>>>> goto loop >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> NB! I am using fc=1500 on in- and output, but you can use your own >>>>>>>>>>> settings. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>>>>>>> loc:JO59jq >>>>>>>>>>> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >>>>>>>>>>> www.opera.no >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den 13.10.2012 16:25, skrev Roland Bruestle: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Steinar, >>>>>>>>>>>> I can do it. I will start with 2W on the PA according 10mW ERP on >>>>>>>>>>>> 474.86kHz. >>>>>>>>>>>> I send you my parameters. Pleas check it. >>>>>>>>>>>> How exact has the frequency to be? within ± 3Hz? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Roland DL3NDR >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment trying to >>>>>>>>>>>> receive >>>>>>>>>>>> from a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you >>>>>>>>>>>> have to do >>>>>>>>>>>> the TXing.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> LA5VNA Steinar >>>>>>>>>>>> loc:jo59jq >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > --------------090106090305020300010900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Steinar,
sorry, I can do it this evening. Lets try it another day.
73
Roland DL3NDR

Am 13.10.2012 22:59, schrieb Roland Bruestle:
Hello Steinar,
this is no problem at all. You have got a very strong signal. That's good.
Let's try tomorrow again on the same frequency of 47486 at 17:00 UTC.
I'm starting with 0.5W and when you receive me than I switch over to 0.01W.
till tomorrow
Good Night
Roland DL3NDR

Am 13.10.2012 22:24, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/b.jpg

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no



Den 13.10.2012 22:03, skrev Steinar Aanesland:

Roland/Markus

This is my mistake and my mistake only . I have to much audio cables
going into my PC ( I four audio cards ) and I have been monitoring wrong
freq (136khz) with wrong radio --blush---

When I am now using the right radio , I got a nice signal :)

(I am ashamed of my self )


LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no




Den 13.10.2012 20:15, skrev Roland Bruestle:

Steinar,
I increase the power, than hopefully you will find me.  80W/0.5W.
Roland

Am 13.10.2012 20:09, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:

It was not :(

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no

Den 13.10.2012 19:52, skrev Steinar Aanesland:

Roland , I hope this is you ;)


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/DL3NDR.jpg

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no





Den 13.10.2012 18:40, skrev Steinar Aanesland:

No problem Roland :)

I am monitoring and I will give you a report as soon as I get one.

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no

Den 13.10.2012 18:27, skrev Roland Bruestle:

Steinar,
sorry, I will already transmit from 19:00 MEZ ore 17:00 UTC
Roland

Am 13.10.2012 17:41, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:

Yes , I know so my dial is 0.473360
and in my wspr soft the "RX BFO (Hz)" is 1500


LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no



Den 13.10.2012 17:24, skrev Roland Bruestle:

Hi Steinar,
I have changed to WSPR-64.
Important is, that our signal is on the same frequency. The
transmitted
frequency is 474.2+0.66=474.86KHz.
I will start at 19:00 UTC.
Good Luck

Roland DL3NDR


Am 13.10.2012 16:51, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:

Hi Roland

First, I made a typo in my email. It should be wspr-64 .

Markus (DF6NM) sent me this text some time ago:

"WSPR 64 can be generated and received with the current setup. You
would
only have to change decimation factor from /dec=2048 to 4096,
and adapt
the arguments in the waitraster commands (repeat period and
leadtimes)
to full hour frames (3600 instead of 1800, etc). "

If I have not completely misunderstood Markus, I think here is the
right
parameters:

For TX :

del audio1.dat
start sndoutp1.exe /sr=48000 /dec=4096 /fc=660 /fn=audio1.dat
/gain=1
:loop
waitraster 3600 20
copy wspr.dat audio1.dat
sleep 5
goto loop

I will use this for RX:

del audio.tmp
del audio2.dat
start sndoutpt.exe /sr=48000 /fc=1500 /dec=128 /fn=audio2.dat
start sndinput.exe /sr=48000 /fc=1500 /dec=4096 /maxsize=200k
waitraster 3600 -24
del audio.dat
:loop
waitraster 3600 -24
del audio.dat
waitraster -120 -1.5
copy audio.dat audio2.dat
goto loop

NB! I am using fc=1500 on in- and output, but you can use your own
settings.

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq
Mal and spam filtering: STRONG
www.opera.no









Den 13.10.2012 16:25, skrev Roland Bruestle:

Hello Steinar,
I can do it. I will start with 2W on the PA according 10mW ERP on
474.86kHz.
I send you my parameters. Pleas check it.
How exact has the frequency to be? within ± 3Hz?

Roland DL3NDR


    PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment trying to
receive
from a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you
have to do
the TXing..

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:jo59jq
 



                        

                      

                      



                    

                    

                  

                  




                

                




              

              




            

            



          

          





        

        





      

      

      

    

    

    

  


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