Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A1C6E380000B8; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TN2AQ-0001GY-4o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:54:14 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TN2AP-0001GP-Nv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:54:13 +0100 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TN2AO-0007r7-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:54:12 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBALVxeVBcEF5v/2dsb2JhbAANOLwxhmIBAQEBAzIBBVELCQ8JFg8JAwIBAgFFEwgBAbBIkyqLWRuDAYMhA5Vskx4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,580,1344207600"; d="scan'208";a="387454117" Received: from host-92-16-94-111.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([92.16.94.111]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 13 Oct 2012 14:54:10 +0100 Message-ID: <50797274.3050401@psk31.plus.com> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:53:56 +0100 From: g3zjo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <50782029.2030005@psk31.plus.com> <507947F2.6080809@psk31.plus.com> <50795F14.1030207@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <50795F14.1030207@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 13/10/2012 13:31, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > > > no chance in the UK to complain about the QRMing TV to an authority? > Here in DL, we can monthly read in our club magazine how amateurs > force their neighbours to switch off devices producing EMI to them... > > 73, Stefan > No Stefan, money talks. The big manufacturers have got their TV's, Computer PSU's and Power Line Wifi devices passed despite them being above the permitted radiation levels. Amateur Radio is not a protected service, so, unless the device is causing interference to Broadcast or has a fault causing interference greater than the manufactured level you are stuck and noise levels just rise all the time. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Scan-Signature: f62c7cf8eeb8e5a327b71719e9bffff1 Subject: Re: LF: EMI... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404d507972cb42a5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none On 13/10/2012 13:31, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > > > no chance in the UK to complain about the QRMing TV to an authority? > Here in DL, we can monthly read in our club magazine how amateurs > force their neighbours to switch off devices producing EMI to them... > > 73, Stefan > No Stefan, money talks. The big manufacturers have got their TV's, Computer PSU's and Power Line Wifi devices passed despite them being above the permitted radiation levels. Amateur Radio is not a protected service, so, unless the device is causing interference to Broadcast or has a fault causing interference greater than the manufactured level you are stuck and noise levels just rise all the time. There are several Panasonic Plasma TV's round here, several thousand pounds worth, if it was possible I would complain about them all and have them all scrapped. I can't even QRM the things.:-( Of course there are exceptions, some PLT devices have been replaced for wireless devices free by BT who should have known better and not installed them in the first place. The RSGB even started collecting donations for a private fighting fund to take the authorities on in a court of law re PLT. 73 Eddie