Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8C8E0380000B9; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1T5zXQ-0008Fs-FF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1T5zXQ-0008Fj-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:32 +0100 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T5zXO-0002PY-Ih for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:30 +0100 Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20120827133929.ZBMR1732.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:29 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.2] (really [82.5.252.56]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with ESMTP id <20120827133928.ZNZZ23973.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@[192.168.2.2]> for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:28 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:39:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <503B869B.13523.54A81E@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-reply-to: <37060B46D79F4AC69EEDBDA79B6B00CC@AGB> References: <06DDBDA2FE814440A956B5C33365FB75@AGB>, <003501cd8452$4ce82780$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>, <37060B46D79F4AC69EEDBDA79B6B00CC@AGB> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=GaEGOwq9FwezmTggA+b6yC6zDZF2HYaK6RN/tSqdnVA= c=1 sm=0 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=9YlaCzn6_68A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pCVlVQATqRwA:10 a=MV3n-9WoFMfxr6PTJycA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 27 Aug 2012 at 14:08, Graham wrote: > Interesting , is Op visible at -40 dB ? , Oh yes! I have done some tests with TF3HZ's grabber and I can see my Op32 on a QRSS screen when he was decoding at very low levels. However, there is not much in it and Opera is very impressive in resolving weak signals. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [81.103.221.48 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 1f795a2ee1ecd56682b47ad11969b3d3 Subject: Re: LF: Re: OP missed decodes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6015503b78cf78b2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none On 27 Aug 2012 at 14:08, Graham wrote: > Interesting , is Op visible at -40 dB ? , Oh yes! I have done some tests with TF3HZ's grabber and I can see my Op32 on a QRSS screen when he was decoding at very low levels. However, there is not much in it and Opera is very impressive in resolving weak signals. For beacon and propagation tests Opera reports are so much more convenient than taking snapshots of images of a QRSS grabber screen. For a QSO, QRSS/DFCW may well be more useful, but the path conditions can be more easily determined using Opera. It is "horses for courses". Mike, G3XDV ==========