Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DC8CC38000085; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SxPbs-0006rV-Tl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:40:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SxPbs-0006rM-6L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:40:40 +0100 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (UNKNOWN:AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SxPbq-0004W0-M1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:40:39 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.140] (helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SxPbo-0003RR-H8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:40:36 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:34311 helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SxPbo-0003zd-EV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:40:36 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (port=49773 helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SxPZk-0003j2-6q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:38:28 +0200 Received: from blfd-d9bf1fb2.pool.mediaways.net ([217.191.31.178]:1607 helo=[192.168.178.21]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SxPZj-0001b1-Qc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:38:28 +0200 Message-ID: <501C44D1.3000005@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 23:38:25 +0200 From: wolf_dl4yhf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <501BFCA8.2010401@legal-medicine.de> In-Reply-To: <501BFCA8.2010401@legal-medicine.de> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Peter, I don't think the duty cycle feeding the sychronous output counter will be a problem. Single-edge triggered flipflops for that counter (400 kHz in, 100 kHz out)... doesn't matter where the "other" edge is. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [195.4.92.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dl4yhf[at]freenet.de) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: f38d515a9cad1e977fcfe251941a8120 Subject: Re: LF: 100 kHz I/Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4acf501c45944bae X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Peter, I don't think the duty cycle feeding the sychronous output counter will be a problem. Single-edge triggered flipflops for that counter (400 kHz in, 100 kHz out)... doesn't matter where the "other" edge is. Out of curiosity : You aren't building a Loran-synchronized 10 MHz reference by chance ? Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF ( -> DF0WD soon, on 472.5 kHz in CW ) Am 03.08.2012 18:30, schrieb pws: > Hi, > > I found some 10 MHz double-OCXOs in the junk-box and > I need two 100 kHz LO-signals at 90deg. of phase shift. > > The idea is using 74HC390 for dividing down to 400 kHz > (25:1) feeding a phase shifting network consisting of > two flip-flops (4:1), commonly found at SDRs. > > Q: Does that work or could I run into trouble due to the > non-symmetrical output train from the 25:1 dividers? > > May be a stupid question but it's ~40 years ago when I > was busy doing nasty things with flip-flops [^_^] > > Peter, df3lp > > >