Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6158 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 10:06:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 10:06:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 21040 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 10:06:16 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 10:06:16 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16U3Cq-0007ay-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:03:36 +0000 Received: from k2.pncl.co.uk ([212.35.226.183]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16U3Cp-0007at-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:03:36 +0000 Received: from blanch.pncl.co.uk (30.234.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.234.30]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0PA2jB06329 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:02:46 GMT Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020125082049.00a32ec0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:04:21 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" Subject: LF: LF antenna gain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Could one of you experts help me with the following please: A short vertical monopole antenna over perfect ground has a gain relative to isotropic of 4.8 dB. A half-wave dipole in free space has a gain rel. isotropic of 2.15 dB Therefore, a monopole should have a gain of 2.65 dB over a dipole. So the theory goes............ But look at the qualifier on the short vertical gain - it has to be operating over "perfect ground". No amateur has "perfect ground"; at least not that I am aware of. I haven't heard of anyone laying out 36 radials 550 metres long under his antenna (not even G3KEV.......yet!) So nearly all the energy that goes into the ground is dissipated and does not return to the feedpoint. Therefore it cannot reinforce the radiation pattern. In that case, does the theoretical gain still hold? Gain is only obtained from directivity. Directivity can be calculated from physical considerations but the equation to obtain gain from directivity is G = e*D , where G = power gain, D = directivity, and e = radiated power/total power. The "gains" quoted above are actually theoretical directivity figures but they assume that e = 1, that is, that there are no ground losses (as the definition states) and that accordingly gain is the same as directivity. Not so in an average amateur situation, where e = 1/1000 (1w radiated for 1000w input) so G = 0.001*4.8 = .0048 dB. In other words, the average amateur LF antenna is no better than isotropic. Or should I be ignoring earth losses and only counting copper losses? Walter G3JKV.