X-GM-THRID: 1205702496206903816 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 41cfed5b672bfad518582ea390eeca558a1d6cb8 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs23190wrc; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 06:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.40.10 with SMTP id n10mr876412hun; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 06:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 2si752545hue.2006.06.09.06.36.07; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 06:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Foh3Y-0003M5-Iz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:44 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Foh3X-0003Lw-Tx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:43 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Foh3T-0003M1-I6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:29:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155744D12A for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:29:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6CB4CE22 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp02.kuleuven.be (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6FC2CAAFB; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by smtp02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DE92CAAF9 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20060609153251.021d81f0@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:39:27 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <2e0.87cb5f1.31bac63f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.165,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: IC706 vs TS850 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_281914453==_.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6647 --=====================_281914453==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bryan, if only (the lack of) selectivity is a problem and not sensitivity I would recommend to insert a (passive) bandpassfilter in front of the RX. QRM/QRN level at 136 kHz is that high that even a few dB insertion loss won't do any harm. With my Kenwood TS440 and a tuned inverted-L antenna (12m high, 22m long) I could insert a 30 dB attenuator and the band noise was still a lot stronger than the RX noise. 73, Rik ON7YD / OR7T At 08:40 9/06/2006 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 09/06/2006 12:35:12 GMT Standard Time, >captbrian@ukonline.co.uk writes: >Thanks for that. It certainly helps _me_. I have a 706/2/g but no 850. > >The front end of my 706 is so wide it recieves all the world at the same >time ! but I am only one mile from a MW broadcast station . > > I can see I need at least a V. narrow tuned pre-amp. Any ideas where to >find one? [ Newbury Rally next week ] > >Hi. > >The G3YXM / G0MRF pre-amp is fairly narrow. It certainly offers good >rejection of MW. >But it is 50 ohms ish in and out. - I think some simple response tests >are listed on the web site. > >Another possibility would be a tuned input FET which could be made a >higher Z input. > >73 > >David G0MRF > >www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_281914453==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Bryan,

if only (the lack of) selectivity is a problem and not sensitivity I would recommend to insert a (passive) bandpassfilter in front of the RX.
QRM/QRN level at 136 kHz is that high that even a few dB insertion loss won't do any harm.
With my Kenwood TS440 and a tuned inverted-L antenna (12m high, 22m long) I could insert  a 30 dB attenuator and the band noise was still a lot stronger than the RX noise.

73, Rik  ON7YD / OR7T

At 08:40 9/06/2006 -0400, you wrote:
In a message dated 09/06/2006 12:35:12 GMT Standard Time, captbrian@ukonline.co.uk writes:
Thanks for that.  It certainly helps _me_.   I have a 706/2/g but no 850.

The front end of my 706 is so wide it recieves all the world at the same
time !  but I am only one mile from a MW broadcast station .

  I can see I need at least a V.  narrow tuned pre-amp.  Any ideas where to
find one? [ Newbury Rally next week ]
 
Hi.
 
The G3YXM / G0MRF pre-amp is fairly narrow. It certainly offers good rejection of MW.
But it is 50 ohms ish in and out.  - I think some simple response tests are listed on the web site.
 
Another possibility would be a tuned input FET which could be made a higher Z input.
 
73
 
David  G0MRF
 
www.g0mrf.freeserve.co.uk


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