Return-Path: Received: (qmail 38233 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 12:35:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ptb-mxscan02.plus.net) (212.159.14.236) by ptb-mailstore02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 12:35:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 72389 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2004 12:35:20 -0000 X-Filtered-by: Plusnet (hmail v1.01) X-Spam-detection-level: 11 Received: from ptb-mxcore02.plus.net (212.159.14.216) by ptb-mxscan02.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 12:35:19 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1BBvE7-000IYz-3P for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 12:35:19 +0000 X-Fake-Domain: majordom Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvD7-0006qa-3g for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:17 +0100 Received: from [213.232.95.59] (helo=relay.salmark.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1BBvD6-0006qR-M9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:16 +0100 Received: from nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.41]) by relay.salmark.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BBvD3-0005xC-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:34:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7824C2D7 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.72]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598FC4C3EF for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Fake-Domain: dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by lepidus.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5D938005A for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20040409143308.01d9a230@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 14:38:25 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000201c41e22$77dc63b0$c72537d2@mcalevey> References: <000001c41e1b$cfebbda0$6507a8c0@Main> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: LF: Re: DCF39 in ZL again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SPAMFiltered: yes X-Spam-Rating: 1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Mike and Alan, EIRP of DCF39 is about 40kW (+/-46dBW), so ERP about 44dBW Few hams reach the 1 W ERP limit , most are even 6..10dB weaker. So the "gap" is at least 44dB maybe even up to 50dB. More about DCF39 : http://www.qru.de/dcf39-beacon.html 73, Rik At 23:04 9/04/2004 +1200, you wrote: >Alan, > >yes, it appears very likely that DCF39 is reaching us. As far as I can >ascertain the first traces appeared when the gray line was about Moscow; >maybe 2000km from Magdeburg? > >That 36dB advantage of DCF39 looks like a big hurdle to overcome. However >the signal was very strong at the 60 second dot setting and also the keying >sidebands were quite clear and there can't be much energy in those relative >to the carrier. I will try the 20 second dot setting tonight. Bob ZL2CA will >also be watching. > >Mike ZL4OL