Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2425 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 19316 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18jhBj-0004sa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:51:39 +0000 Received: from [134.58.240.41] (helo=nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18jhBi-0004s3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:51:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B41F31B2 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.240.73]) by nibbel.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24B61F3108 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (pc-10-33-165-177.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [10.33.165.177]) by antonius.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723C24C0D0 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:51:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030214154446.02d25700@u0019445.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: u0019445@u0019445.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:59:13 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" In-reply-to: <18jKbP-0UPYMCC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: KULeuven Anti-Virus Cluster Subject: Re: LF: EH-Antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=IN_REP_TO,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Bernd, group, I just had a look at the webpage, and as any other EH- (or CFA-) antennas that is claimed to work well it is at a respectable height above ground (based on the pictures I guess about 10m). Most likely the EH-antenna just acts as the funny looking top-hat of a vertical antenna. Scaling up the 160m version (1.5m long, 35cm diameter at 10m height) to 136kHz would result in a 20m long, almost 5m diameter construction at 130m above ground. I have no doubt that this would be a great 136kHz antenna ... assuming you can build such a construction. For 136kHz a 6m high, 2m diameter construction is proposed, let's say with the lower end 3m above ground. Downscaling that to the topband results in a 44cm high, 15cm diameter with the lower end at 22cm from the soil. I wonder if such an antenna would be worth anything (be sure to dig the coax in the soil to avoid that it radiates more than the antenna). 73, Rik ON7YD At 14:44 13/02/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Hi all, >for one who is interested in getting more practical information, there is >a URL: > >http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/home_eng.htm > >where you can find some hints to build this antenna for 160 m. And >furthermore a lot of results in doing qsos with this type of >lowband-antenna. Talino (iz7ath) suggests 6m long cylindres/2m diameter >for 137 kHz. If the loss of efficiency will be abt. 10dB compared to a >fullsize-dipol(measured at 1.8MHz!) then it would be a hope for all >lowfers with large aereas and tolerant neighborhood :-)) >73 Bernd, DF8ZR